The Lessons Not Learned.

[Renalt]

Aveyond really does live rent free in peoples' heads around here.

I'm just happy that once in a blue moon...the entire community can all agree on a single point.

That point being Aveyond is a crybaby.

[AmpelioB]

I honestly wonder if the title of the thread is more about HIM not learning from past mistakes and continuing to play a game he clearly hates.

now that you mentioned i didn't realized it was him because of the aura, oh well putting on my ignore list now with that knot roe

On content ARR relic was NOT easy. Hard Mode trials were the original tough content of the game and back in the day Titan HM was a tough wall to climb. Obviously the content got dwarfed by Extremes and gear tuning destroyed their difficulty over time, but back when they first came out, the first relic step was actually a bit of a hurdle to overcome.

Not to mention you needed to craft or source an at the time expensive weapon melded with materia for Gerolt to "use as a base".

and that was because of that, that every sub sequential relic is fairly more easy, just how bozja is better than Eureka.

but if you do excuse myself i'm saying in modern-day not ARR-era.

[Vahlnir]

I'm just happy that once in a blue moon...the entire community can all agree on a single point.

That point being Aveyond is a crybaby.

To some degree, sure. But in the midst of the endless stream of hot takes, they can bring up some very good points on occasion. I will give them credit for that much at least.

[SaberMaxwell]

jokes on you guys because the first step has always been this easy:

1. ARR:

Do the chimera
Do a few dungeons
Slay so mobs
Do a few trials
spend 15 poetics

1. Heavensward

About 12 fates, 6 if you are very lucky.
OR turn your Zodiac weapon if you are some kind of maniac

1. Stormblood

They actually gave the first step in the job quest, so it's basically free, just level your job

1. Shadowbringer

a bunch of quests introducing Bozja + 1000 poetics (which is kinda like ARR if you think about it but it's not locking you in specific content).
you don't even have to enter bozja to get it anyway.


so yea guys, first step of relic always been easy.

On content ARR relic was NOT easy. Hard Mode trials were the original tough content of the game and back in the day Titan HM was a tough wall to climb. Obviously the content got dwarfed by Extremes and gear tuning destroyed their difficulty over time, but back when they first came out, the first relic step was actually a bit of a hurdle to overcome.

Not to mention you needed to craft or source an at the time expensive weapon melded with materia for Gerolt to "use as a base".

[Deveryn]

To some degree, sure. But in the midst of the endless stream of hot takes, they can bring up some very good points on occasion. I will give them credit for that much at least.

That's like being excited over finding an undigested piece of food in a pile....

[Stormpeaks]

The same usual Aveyond haters who just cant handle ignoring his posts, "yeah op is a crybaby" yet they absolutely HAVE to come in his threads and cry about them, that's the irony of things.

[Vahlnir]

That's like being excited over finding an undigested piece of food in a pile....

[Reap00]

Patch day has arrived. It was an update that I didn’t expect to be quite content heavy, but even so the situation regarding what just released today has to be addressed. The game right now is light on content and for all the hype about Criterion/Variant Dungeons, they released with ill-fitting, extremely limited rewards that will soon leave players without a reason to return to the content for who knows how long. Not like we haven’t run into situations before just last expansion when a lack of rewards for content like CLL made it irrelevant within a span of 2 weeks. A pink mouse, a generic throne, and yet another modern glamset. I truly wonder what about the feedback of people being fed up with these clothes and wanting more fantasy all-class gear is too hard to address. If it even makes it through to the proper channels, but rather than face criticism it seems they’d rather pander to the less-mature subset of players that congregate on Twitter – from whom they can expect nothing but unconditional positivity.

For a blessing, the Manderville Weapons aren’t the dreaded joke weapons from the Weapon Design Contest but all it takes to get one is 1500 poetics? Seriously? Did they forget how much of a mistake it was when they did poetics for Shadowbringers relics as well? Forget “accessibility” – anyone who wants an easy weapon to get can buy one off the marketboard. They could’ve at least spiced things up by...oh wait, the Relic Zones were scrapped entirely this expansion instead of releasing in the .25 patch like back in Stormblood. Any fates with interesting mechanics won’t be seen until 7.X, if even that, with the only other options being overworld fates with basic aoes or Alliance Raids that haven’t aged well in terms of balancing. I cannot imagine what appeal these weapons would have for us veteran players who likely already own a good number of relics, let alone those of us unwilling to suffer through the torment of the Hildibrand quests – with even more of that sort of writing apparently being present in the Omicron beast tribe storyline. Seems like even the Pixies had a darker plot to their quests, and they involved a literal candyland.

We’ve been here before – it seriously feels like the Covid content drought all over again but instead of finishing off with something like Bozja all we got was one of many entirely forgettable modern glamsets and another relic step that made the same mistakes as 5.25’s. Anyone could see the mistakes that were made in the past when it came to all this stuff and instead of improving, they just doubled down and repeated them all over again. How on earth is this ok?

Yes we have been here before. You complain about literally every content this game releases. Go play something else for gods sake. Your crying is getting annoying.

[Stormpeaks]

Yes we have been here before. You complain about literally every content this game releases. Go play something else for gods sake. Your crying is getting annoying.

Or you could just, I know, it's CRAZY, you can just not read his posts

[Reap00]

Or you could just, I know, it's CRAZY, you can just not read his posts

I am sure the other complainers will give you upvotes for that. Enjoy it. I know you kids love your upvotes for some strange reason.