The Lessons Not Learned.

[Thoosa]

Btw no game director would say “go take breaks” if they were not making a nice healthy profit from the game, so there’s very little financial risk in doing so and it’s not really said in an altruistic way.

[Kazhar]

Btw no game director would say “go take breaks” if they were not making a nice healthy profit from the game, so there’s very little financial risk in doing so and it’s not really said in an altruistic way.

Anyway he said take breaks, but he never asked anyone to actually unsub.

[VelKallor]

You're going to be playing Variant dungeons in a month from now when there's no tangible reward left?

Just because you dont doesnt mean others wont.

Considering that the text in my signature is the stereotypical response of a white knight, you've just admitted to being a white knight for SE. Thanks for making your opinions invalid I guess. /shrug

I dont care what your sig says, less so for your "opinion".

Your contemptuous attitude towards others who dont happen to share your jaded, cynical view is noted and logged accordingly.

[AwesomeJr44]

I dont happen to care what your sig says, and even less for your opinion. Your attitude towards others who dont share your jaded, cynical view is noted and logged accordingly.

If you didn't care about what my sig said, why did you make an entire second post just to respond to it?

What is this:

Oh almost forgot:

I happen to agree with 10000% , having played BOTH games now for several years, the gulf between what Yoshi and his team have done to make this game what it is vs the absolute fwe heap that WOW has become, is utterly gigantic.

I am EXTREMELY impressed with what the team has accomplished, which is why i stay. Before you go off on your "white knight" sneer campaign, just bear this in mind....

For the ONLY time in my decades of gaming, having been the customer of multiple MMOs, MUDs, MUCKs. BBS, multiplayer games of all stripes and kinds since...God how long has it been now....the late 80's..Blizzard are the ONLY company to which I have not only said "I am leaving", but to whom i told to literally WIPE my account, removing ALL TRACE of my past history with them.

Right to be forgotten invoked. I had NEVER done that before, such was my complete disgust. Think for a hard moment on what it took to get to that step.

All of it, gone. All licenses, gone. All games deleted , hard copies THROWN OUT, the cd's literally sliced up. I will never touch another one of their games again. Ever.

Square Enix is not perfect, no one has said otherwise. The game is not perfect nor will it ever be, despite the ardent, at close to, at times , manic nitpicking I have seen here, Yoshi and his team have delivered time and time again.

I am enjoying myself immensely, FF 14 , from the view of a seasoned long time gamer, is far, far superior than most, if not all, of its cohorts. Quite frankly, I am amazed at what they have accomplished, I too am grateful for all they have done.

Would that other MMO devs had the sense to try and follow their example.

And no, not valuing the opinion of someone who literally just admitted to being a white knight for SE is not jaded or cynical. You have just stated that you '10000% agree' with people who have zero objectivity and who say we should be grateful for scraps. Of course I don't value such opinions, they're biased as hell. Either you agree with the stereotypical white knight and are thus one, or you misspoke and should just admit that you misspoke.

[AwesomeJr44]

Little more than the truth. If you cant or wont understand that, not my problem.

You literally just agreed with the stereotypical statement made by people with zero objectivity or grasp on the truth. Not only that, but you made an entire second post just to respond to my signature, meaning it apparently was important enough to you to do so. (Even though you claim to apparently not care what my signature says) You don't get to literally admit to being a white knight for SE and still claim you're on the side of truth.

[VelKallor]

Little more than the truth. If you cant or wont understand that, not my problem.

[hagare]

Little more than the truth. If you cant or wont understand that, not my problem.

I suggest blocking them.
You've seen the quality of their posts.
Nothing will be lost if you block them.

[VelKallor]

at least by google-able sources.

Didnt look very far did you

https://twinfinite.net/2022/06/best-ps5-jrpgs-play/

Final Fantasy XIV
Best PS5 JRPGs 2022

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/which...olden.1561633/

Which JRPG should I play next? FF14 or Persona 4 Golden?

and

For the purpose of this article, a JRPG is defined as a franchise which: (1) is considered a role-playing game by reliable sources and was made in Japan, or (2) made in another country, but otherwise the franchise would be difficult to differentiate from a JRPG due to having common traits found in JRPGs such as: anime/manga character designs, RPG elements, fantasy setting and widely considered as being inspired or influenced by a JRPG.

Thats a few of them, there are more but thats a sample.

JRPG is a genre, an MMO is a game TYPE, you can have a JRPG that is also single player aka the Ff series.

FF 14 is a JRPG with multiplayer ELEMENTS..theres a big difference between the two. MMOs can be adapted to ANY genre or type, from Fallout to Albion Online. i remember a phone conference where the idea of an MMO based on running a hotel was raised. Waiters, chefs, all of it.

He was kidding.

I hope.

[LianaThorne]

Didnt look very far did you

https://twinfinite.net/2022/06/best-ps5-jrpgs-play/



https://www.neogaf.com/threads/which...olden.1561633/



and



Thats a few of them, there are more but thats a sample.

JRPG is a genre, an MMO is a game TYPE, you can have a JRPG that is also single player aka the Ff series.

FF 14 is a JRPG with multiplayer ELEMENTS..theres a big difference between the two. MMOs can be adapted to ANY genre or type, from Fallout to Albion Online. i remember a phone conference where the idea of an MMO based on running a hotel was raised. Waiters, chefs, all of it.

He was kidding.

I hope.

Interesting you chose to only address one half of my post. Speaks miles

Also I meant real sources, such as the actual FF14 wiki or quotes from the dev team (hence why I even included the second example in my post since theyve used that before themselves) or related, not people's opinions on Twitter or top 10 lists from reporters who odds are just Googled random games to make their articles (speaking as someone who used to actually write those lists and get paid for it).

[Lustre]

What even is this discussion? It's an MMO with jrpg elements.