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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    At this point he's writing more about the game than playing it, I'm sure. I got so much stuff to do and dont even know where to start, honestly. But everyone is different so... eh. I'm just saying his constant... uh.. critique would hold more water if he wouldn't do it pretty much constantly and about literally anything, no offense. I do find a few points valid, mind. At this point it's more like white noise, though.
    He should probably work as a gaming journalist.
    The people who spend more time talking about the game instead of actually playing it.
    I bet he'd be great at it
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Everything I've written is because I want to prevent this game from dying but if it keeps on this downward spiral then I all can do is wash my hands of this situation. FFXIV players deserve better than what they are getting.
    Dude, I also have been here since the closed alpha for 1.0. The game has never been more successful. That's just a fact if you go by numbers alone. Not liking something is fair, but what you're saying is straight up not true.
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    "I have nothing to say until the next live letter"

    kkthxbye, troll
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    You operate on this notion that your way is THE right way. That your way is the tried n true way to "save" the game. Very self important

    XIV isn't top mmo to who? Is that backed by numbers or is that an opinion? I'm not saying youre wrong. I'm simply asking if you're stating this as a fact and if its backed up with numbers. Also you're saying people who don't think EW has fallen off are immature? If so that take make no sense...like at all. If that is what you're saying again youre putting on this "holier than thou" standpoint that's just not needed.

    You want people to discuss thing with you in good faith? Start being considerate of others opinions that differ to yours.
    It's usually people like this that have the biggest egos in the community, believing they have all the right solutions. I recall somebody saying that players are experts in finding problems in a game, however they're not capable of coming up solutions to those problems and to me that holds very much true these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    It's usually people like this that have the biggest egos in the community, believing they have all the right solutions. I recall somebody saying that players are experts in finding problems in a game, however they're not capable of coming up solutions to those problems and to me that holds very much true these days.
    That's because (as someone else famously said) players don't know what it is they actually want or need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    It's usually people like this that have the biggest egos in the community, believing they have all the right solutions. I recall somebody saying that players are experts in finding problems in a game, however they're not capable of coming up solutions to those problems and to me that holds very much true these days.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    That's because (as someone else famously said) players don't know what it is they actually want or need.
    A lot of the time I asked people who just complain about something being bad(and not elaborating how/why) what they would do to improve it I would get the answer of "it's not my job to think of that"....in other words they were complaining to have their 5 seconds of fame as the OP on a post that would get 10-20 pages on average.
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    Never seen someone as chronically unhappy as OP.

    Congrats on making it to youtube though I guess. Didn't expect to see your name pop up there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juyira View Post
    Never seen someone as chronically unhappy as OP.

    Congrats on making it to youtube though I guess. Didn't expect to see your name pop up there.
    oh, did zepla pick up this thread?

    I think it's sad that this is how this person wants to get noticed. Get your 20-something butt on youtube like your contemporaries and talk your nonsense with your whole chest. Let the world properly enjoy the ridiculousness that is someone clearly unexperienced in the ways of the world try to tell established writers, producers and developers EXACTLY how they should be saving their game.
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    Last edited by Deveryn; 10-21-2022 at 12:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    oh, did zepla pick up this thread?
    Yeah, I saw it in her video just earlier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juyira View Post
    Congrats on making it to youtube though I guess. Didn't expect to see your name pop up there.
    How very interesting that the 40 something youtuber has run out of content to the point that I am now the subject of discussion on there as well.
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