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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    When non-JP people start referring to others, particularly those they've never met and will never in their lives interact with, with the -san suffix, you know the conversation has run its course.
    You are quite correct. The more correct term of reference would be "Natsuko-sama".

    Honorifics are not just used when talking with someone. They are also used when talking about someone who may not be present with others. The latter is pretty much required, by the way, unless you are referring to a mutual friend.

    "Natsuko-san" is fine as well, but I assume the original writer views Natsuko Ishikawa with some level of esteem.

    The only thing they appear to get wrong is that "Natsuko" is, indeed, the family name. The Producer's family name is "Naoki".

    To the poster of the quote: The discussion is indeed getting pretty thin when all you can complain about is non-Japanese players referring to Japanese people with Japanese honorifics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post

    The only thing they appear to get wrong is that "Natsuko" is, indeed, the family name. The Producer's family name is "Naoki".
    Umm, no they didn’t get that wrong at all. Her family name is Ishikawa. Yoshi-P’s family name is Yoshida.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    The more correct term of reference would be "Natsuko-sama".
    I want to believe this is trolling, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    The only thing they appear to get wrong is that "Natsuko" is, indeed, the family name. The Producer's family name is "Naoki".


    This is like someone coming along and telling you that Baker, Smith, Gonzalez, Weber, and Chen can only ever be given names, and that Sally, Thomas, and Juan were, in fact, the family names.

    It doesn't take much familiarity, with either the name order or common family and given names themselves, to know which is which.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 10-26-2022 at 05:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    You are quite correct. The more correct term of reference would be "Natsuko-sama".

    Honorifics are not just used when talking with someone. They are also used when talking about someone who may not be present with others. The latter is pretty much required, by the way, unless you are referring to a mutual friend.

    "Natsuko-san" is fine as well, but I assume the original writer views Natsuko Ishikawa with some level of esteem.

    The only thing they appear to get wrong is that "Natsuko" is, indeed, the family name. The Producer's family name is "Naoki".

    To the poster of the quote: The discussion is indeed getting pretty thin when all you can complain about is non-Japanese players referring to Japanese people with Japanese honorifics.
    have you not realized maybe we just don't respect them?
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