The Lessons Not Learned.

[hagare]

Yes. By critics. FF13 was received rather decently by critics as well if I recall. The issue comes with the community reception itself. Both games were seen as underwhelming, with 13 having quite a lot of community backlash over the linearity, the plot, the style and the characters. Hell, even the lack of the Prelude was brought up. FF14 1.0 coming right after did not help :|

am I the only one who liked 8 here >_>

[vanaii]

am I the only one who liked 8 here >_>

I liked 8 too. Before I get attacked by the mob, let me also just say I loved XIII and my favorite character in that game was Vanille.

Now that I'm certain I'm going to get attacked by the mob, let me just say my all-time favorites are XIV and VI though.

[Midareyukki]

am I the only one who liked 8 here >_>

No :x And I'm honestly getting upset at people misunderstanding what I'm saying as though I hated these titles.

I loved these titles.

I grew up with FF, for F's sake. As did many people, I'm sure.

The only game I didn't like was FF2, and that was just because I didn't click with the gameplay. I have nothing bad to say about it. I like JRPGs, and hell, I invested quite a lot of time trying to understand FF8's Junction system while not understanding much of English at the time, because that's NOT my native language at all, because I thought the system was interesting.

I'm talking about my experience with the franchise's community and what I constantly saw on forums, youtube videos, and comments on anything related to them a decade ago. WAY before this influencer and clickbaity thing started. We're talking Dirge of Cerberus era, guys, not "lol FF15" era. Reactions were that old, you can go search stuff like GameFAQs to confirm. ALL OF THIS is verifiable.

So yeah. Stop saying that I don't like stuff, that was never what I said, AT ALL. (Not you Hagare, just in general)

More and more I'm convinced these forums have fried everyone's reading abilities. I don't think I can make it any clearer when I say that this isn't my opinion, it's what I observed OTHERS say. My opinion on this franchise as a whole was never mentioned.

People for the most part liked it, although many of them said they wanted to throw Tidus off a bridge

Fun fact!! His voice actor got so fed up at people misconstruing the Tidus Laugh scene that he made an entire video explaining what happened.

Yes, that is James Arnold Taylor, Tidus's Voice actor, Obi-Wan Kenobi's voice actor, having to make an entire video on one narm scene just because people wouldn't shut up about it.

[Absimiliard]

The only game I didn't like was FF2, and that was just because I didn't click with the gameplay. I have nothing bad to say about it. I like JRPGs, and hell, I invested quite a lot of time trying to understand FF8's Junction system

We talking the actual FF2, or the horribly mistitled EN FF2 that was actually FF4? Because the actual FF2 was somehow good and terrible at the same time. FF4 I just formed no strong opinions about because it was kinda run of the mill.

As for FF8 - I liked it too, and I enjoyed the junction system. I found it to be a nice way of building on FF7's materia system, but evidently a lot of people disagreed.

Fun fact!! His voice actor got so fed up at people misconstruing the Tidus Laugh scene that he made an entire video explaining what happened.

Yes, that is James Arnold Taylor, Tidus's Voice actor, Obi-Wan Kenobi's voice actor, having to make an entire video on one narm scene just because people wouldn't shut up about it.

Man, he must've gotten a lot of salt thrown his way to end up feeling that was necessary.

[vanaii]

Actual FF2 felt like a Saga game to me. FF4 felt like a prototype of what would define the series from that point on.

I don't really consider 4 to be terribly deep or insightful. It's just a fun little romp through a lot of varied locales.

[Midareyukki]

We talking the actual FF2, or the horribly mistitled EN FF2 that was actually FF4? Because the actual FF2 was somehow good and terrible at the same time. FF4 I just formed no strong opinions about because it was kinda run of the mill.

As for FF8 - I liked it too, and I enjoyed the junction system. I found it to be a nice way evolution of FF7's materia system, but evidently a lot of people disagreed.

No, actual FF2 xD The one with David Bowie as the main antagonist :^)

The only thing I complain about in FF4 is Rosa. I just... I just didn't like Rosa xD I can't tell you why. I like Edward of all things, not Rosa.
idk, younger me was weird and had a bad impression.

I couldn't grasp the way skills levelled up in FF2, I was super focused still on getting levels for characters, and then I just dropped it halfway. I know how the story ends, but that's bc google exists and I am a gigantic nerd.

I think for FF8 it was a byproduct of both "Draw and Junction having so many effects that people were overwhelmed" and "Quistis's early explanation was super vague and people just didn't get it". And yes, for clarification: I'm spitballing here. All I know is that people found Junction to be complicated in comparison to the past, more straightforward Final Fantasy levelling/skill/stat systems. Justifications, if there were any because some comments just straight up didn't say anything more, were varied.