The Lessons Not Learned.

[Katt_Felista]

Lesson number one not learned is ilvl 615 savage pf, are troll signaling of discord streamer hangers stupid rmt shitposters of "reclears" and now, even training pf's leading nowhere on any and every mech failed on purpose, trying to create "content" and Drama by shittying up purposefully the party finder. You can easily find all these names jumping from NA servers to EU servers to harass repeatedly the pfinder (they have a gripe with eu servers / shiddy it up for a long time now) with, of course, same old same ilvl615 groups, (when you see ilvl 615 groups it's very often their "mark" and 99% of the time, entering theses, you'll find out trolls destroy the simplest mechs or don't allow you to pass it) reset day, to reset day "stuck" on the same raids, until they clear a few hours before reset (sapha kotye is one exemple of that, reaching P8S P2 in one shot, then leave the party right away after first pull of p2, and yes that player is present in a lot of usual ffxiv streamers backgrounds, and parties, as well as a few others doing this out of their way on EU servers and sometimes NA too.)

Lesson not learned is, a lot of people getting privilege around the streamer industry also work hand in hand with secondary and tertiary advertising and game publishing companies and get many kind of mafia like advantage / side hustles like selling game currency or getting all manners and types of advantages as "part of the job" and of course, won't disclose or acknowledge it, (IRS, come come, i see you, you might be interested in this black market of undisclosed non-declared work) these big privilege then drip down in smaller ones into brackets and fountain like droplets from streamers / first world raiders to friends to a friend to communities of rmt sellers, from streamers but also from "world first" guilds (lesson not learned about the scandals of many previous wow and other first raiding guilds that disbanded for these types of problems and then some) but it's common knowledge in the "backrooms" / discord / and dm talk. Just a bunch of hypocrites that want to preserve the illusion that it isn't real, when they half admit it, they downplay it and censor what they say about it, even on stream, because yeah, it would completely shatter the illusion of a lot of things if players knew how it really works and is, of course.

[VelKallor]

WoW swings wildly back and forth from that or catering only to the hardcore raiders

Actually, these days? WOW is the pvp / m plus / raid meta and they dont actually give a TOSS for anyone else. Their open world content is a sick joke...actually its non existent.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Actually, these days? WOW is the pvp / m plus / raid meta and they dont actually give a TOSS for anyone else. Their open world content is a sick joke...actually its non existent.

Now, yes. (At least, from what I've heard, it's been a few expacs since I've played it myself.) Back in Wrath, they got complaints of going too casual and making Heroic dungeons too easy. Then in Cataclysm they went the other way and made them too hard. Then in Mists the dungeons were overall more accessible, but they took the cap off of daily quests, so people were accusing them of forcing raiders to no-life it to get all those enchants and crafting recipes they'd need to optimize. And so on. It swings around depending on who's in charge and who you listen to about it.

[VelKallor]

Then in Mists the dungeons were overall more accessible, but they took the cap off of daily quests, so people were accusing them of forcing raiders to no-life it to get all those enchants and crafting recipes they'd need to optimize

Oh GOD dont remind me , that Celestials grind was...UGH...Mists was good tbh, a very apparently sunny themed expac that was in fact dark and grim once you got into it. Then they followed it up with that....*makes disgusted look...Warlords of Draenor which was a totally industrial sized fwe heap, when will they LEARN that that stupid, IDIOTIC faction war stunk worse than a six month old hunk of steak left out in 130 degree heat

Its old. Its out of date. No one takes that hackneyed, lazy refuse seriously anymore, other than one or two brainless prats who rant on about "faction pride"

They took MoP's storyline and replaced it with "Me Orc, me no like human, orc smash"

Blech.

[Thaciscokidd]

Now, yes. (At least, from what I've heard, it's been a few expacs since I've played it myself.) Back in Wrath, they got complaints of going too casual and making Heroic dungeons too easy. Then in Cataclysm they went the other way and made them too hard. Then in Mists the dungeons were overall more accessible, but they took the cap off of daily quests, so people were accusing them of forcing raiders to no-life it to get all those enchants and crafting recipes they'd need to optimize. And so on. It swings around depending on who's in charge and who you listen to about it.

I've never agreed with a statement more than this. You can't please all of the people all of the time.

Over the years the goal post shifted. You can see it with Elden Ring earlier this year(man this year when by fast) with people asking for easy modes in a souls game or in contrast people asking for a harder Pokémon game. Everyone these days want to be able to play any game and that game cater to them.

[TheGrimace]

OP and their supporters are impossible to please.

[Axxion]

...aaand of course the idea that they can have separate teams never occurred to you?



That comes down to trust, which they have as far as I am concerned.

Patience.

Just to chime in on this but per https://www.rpgsite.net/feature/1285...al-fantasy-xvi

you will have 6 of the main people that worked on 14 working on 16

[aveyond-dreams]

OP and their supporters are impossible to please.

That isn’t true though. Give me good story, good content with sufficient rewards, and good gameplay for my chosen job in a timely manner and you wouldn’t see much of me around here.

Instead we got an expansion that goes from blunder to blunder in each of the above categories.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I've never agreed with a statement more than this. You can't please all of the people all of the time.

Over the years the goal post shifted. You can see it with Elden Ring earlier this year(man this year when by fast) with people asking for easy modes in a souls game or in contrast people asking for a harder Pokémon game. Everyone these days want to be able to play any game and that game cater to them.

I mean, Pokemon did have a hard mode once, in Black and White 2. Except you needed to find someone who'd already beaten the Champion in Black 2 (beating White 2 unlocked Easy Mode instead), then get them to transfer an unlock key, then start a new file with it. It was a stupidly convoluted way to do it, even more so now that BW2 are several console generations behind. So people are mostly just asking for that to come back, but as an option at game start, rather than some messy multiple unlock.

[VelKallor]

That isn’t true though. Give me good story, good content with sufficient rewards, and good gameplay for my chosen job in a timely manner and you wouldn’t see much of me around here.

Endwalker provides all of that now, but you cant be pleased, not to mention your continued prating on how you could do better....when you cant and we both know it. Your comments on "good story" are based on your continued "claims" that "you know what everyone wants" which is utter rubbish. NOT ONCE have you ever admitted you could be wrong. Not once have you admitted that what you want may very well be NOT what everyone else wants.

Instead we got an expansion that goes from blunder to blunder in each of the above categories.

Opinion. Not fact by any means.

I am enjoying it all immensely, so are many of my friends and FC members. People other than you are having fun with the game and dont have the same issues you do..but somehow you know what they want, without ever even asking them?

Please...