The Lessons Not Learned.

[VelKallor]

WoW swings wildly back and forth from that or catering only to the hardcore raiders

Actually, these days? WOW is the pvp / m plus / raid meta and they dont actually give a TOSS for anyone else. Their open world content is a sick joke...actually its non existent.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Actually, these days? WOW is the pvp / m plus / raid meta and they dont actually give a TOSS for anyone else. Their open world content is a sick joke...actually its non existent.

Now, yes. (At least, from what I've heard, it's been a few expacs since I've played it myself.) Back in Wrath, they got complaints of going too casual and making Heroic dungeons too easy. Then in Cataclysm they went the other way and made them too hard. Then in Mists the dungeons were overall more accessible, but they took the cap off of daily quests, so people were accusing them of forcing raiders to no-life it to get all those enchants and crafting recipes they'd need to optimize. And so on. It swings around depending on who's in charge and who you listen to about it.

[Thaciscokidd]

Now, yes. (At least, from what I've heard, it's been a few expacs since I've played it myself.) Back in Wrath, they got complaints of going too casual and making Heroic dungeons too easy. Then in Cataclysm they went the other way and made them too hard. Then in Mists the dungeons were overall more accessible, but they took the cap off of daily quests, so people were accusing them of forcing raiders to no-life it to get all those enchants and crafting recipes they'd need to optimize. And so on. It swings around depending on who's in charge and who you listen to about it.

I've never agreed with a statement more than this. You can't please all of the people all of the time.

Over the years the goal post shifted. You can see it with Elden Ring earlier this year(man this year when by fast) with people asking for easy modes in a souls game or in contrast people asking for a harder Pokémon game. Everyone these days want to be able to play any game and that game cater to them.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I've never agreed with a statement more than this. You can't please all of the people all of the time.

Over the years the goal post shifted. You can see it with Elden Ring earlier this year(man this year when by fast) with people asking for easy modes in a souls game or in contrast people asking for a harder Pokémon game. Everyone these days want to be able to play any game and that game cater to them.

I mean, Pokemon did have a hard mode once, in Black and White 2. Except you needed to find someone who'd already beaten the Champion in Black 2 (beating White 2 unlocked Easy Mode instead), then get them to transfer an unlock key, then start a new file with it. It was a stupidly convoluted way to do it, even more so now that BW2 are several console generations behind. So people are mostly just asking for that to come back, but as an option at game start, rather than some messy multiple unlock.