The Lessons Not Learned.

[Ransu]

Consider this: I literally do not care. Those things don't change the fact that this game is in quite the state.

And yet you're still (unfortunately) subbed to the game and gracing us with your trolling presence...

[Stormpeaks]

Still lying I see. I presented points to your statements. I'm here to discuss not troll. Yet you n select others buckle each time I and many others do this n try to dip off with an insult.

What you deem a "lost cause" is in reality someone who is willing to challenge your views n stick to their guns. Stop with the bs dude...

I already mentioned it multiple times, all you do is defend Square at all cost, no matter what point is being "challenged", you always take SE's side and try and find them excuses. That makes it absolutely pointless to even try and discuss with you.

Housing issue ? Duh blame the players they dont NEED to have a house !

Glam issue and character creation screen too limited, being unable to preview emotes and glams from the creation menu ? Well you have youtube to watch it, "why would they put it in the game when you have alternatives" was literally your point.

You just always find something to someone defend them, and as I just said, it makes it pointless to even try and discuss something with you, I already know what you will respond next.

And yet you're still (unfortunately) subbed to the game and gracing us with your trolling presence...

Your trolling presence isnt any better than his.

[IkaraGreydancer]

I already mentioned it multiple times, all you do is defend Square at all cost, no matter what point is being "challenged", you always take SE's side and try and find them excuses. That makes it absolutely pointless to even try and discuss with you.

Housing issue ? Duh blame the players they dont NEED to have a house !

Glam issue ? Well you have youtube to watch it, why would they put it in the game when you have alternatives ?

You just always find something to someone defend them, and as I just said, it makes it pointless to even try and discuss something with you, I already know what you will respond next.



Your trolling presence isnt any better than his.

And we're STILL lying!!! When did I EVER say housing was fine? I said you are responsible for your own choices and your connection to your house. FACTUALLY you aren't being forced to do anything. Nobody NEEDS a house. It is a luxury. Again another FACT.

Glam issue I said could for sure be revised but UNTIL THEN you have some alternatives. Hell someone even pointed out that hair is one of the things you dont have an alternative to check n I even said that was true n agreed. Not ONCE did I say "why would they put it in the game when you have alternatives". More made up bs.

I'm sick n tired of you lying on my name dude. Its pathetic asf. Hell I even said in this very thread the game could use some work. How tf does that translate to me always defending? News flash!!! It's doesnt.

Let's say I WAS always defending the game. You have no issue with OP always crapping on it. So if that extreme is ok then the other should be ok where someone always defends. If one isn't ok nor should the other be.

But yeah I'm just a "lost cause". Right xD

[Stormpeaks]

And we're STILL lying!!! When did I EVER say housing was fine? I said you are responsible for your own choices and your connection to your house. FACTUALLY you aren't being forced to do anything. Nobody NEEDS a house. It is a luxury. Again another FACT.

Glam issue I said could for sure be revised but UNTIL THEN you have some alternatives. Hell someone even pointed out that hair is one of the things you dont have an alternative to check n I even said that was true n agreed. Not ONCE did I say "why would they put it in the game when you have alternatives". More made up bs.

I'm sick n tired of you lying on my name dude. Its pathetic asf. Hell I even said in this very thread the game could use some work. How tf does that translate to me always defending? News flash!!! It's doesnt.

Let's say I WAS always defending the game. You have no issue with OP always crapping on it. So if that extreme is ok then the other should be ok where someone always defends. If one isn't ok nor should the other be.

But yeah I'm just a "lost cause". Right xD

You literally just admitted again you are blaming the players for wanting a house, which is exactly what I just mentioned, thank you for proving my point, lol. Also if it's a luxury, dont put it on the product page as a major part of the product when it's this limited, that's called fake advertisement.

E : Yep, I actually seriously give up LOL, I tried to have a decent discussion with you, but you are actually in denial.

"Yeah it's their fault for wanting a house, it's a luxury so it's their choice !"
"No I dont blame them !"

Alright lmao

[IkaraGreydancer]

You literally just admitted again you are blaming the players for wanting a house, which is exactly what I just mentioned, thank you for proving my point, lol. Also if it's a luxury, dont put it on the product page as a major product when it's this limited, that's called fake advertisement.

Blaming players for wanting a house...where...? Are you not responsible for your own attachment to something now? Many people have unsubbed and lost a home because they themselves don't value them that much. That choice is 100% theirs. All within THEIR control. Where tf did I say "it's your fault for wanting a house? I said you have the choice t keep subbed n keep it, or drop your sub for 45iirc days n lose it. Unless the 45 has changed that means you can drop your sub for a whole month n take a break n be completely fine which still keeps to the mentality of the devs wanting people to take breaks. And again NOT EVERYONE OWNS A HOUSE. Now if that number has changed I'll 100% take that back.

And I'd 100% be down with them making it known housing is limited on a server by server basis.

Edit: I'm not BLAMING anyone. I'm saying you have that choice to make. It is within your power n yours alone. If you can't comprehend that then that's a you problem. You've made it clear you ARENT trying to discuss a damn thing. I've brought up many points with factual info to back what I'm saying. You have not. And you want to call others trolls...

[Hoehenflug]

Don't know if it comes from there but it was part of Mark Rosewater's 20 years 20 lessons presentation at GDC 2016. This is also common game designer wisdom. Listen to criticism, not suggestions.
Which is why I believe criticism is healthy for the game even when it's not "constructive". Just saying "I don't like X" is a more valuable information than people give it credit.

Ironic coming from MaRo in hindsight. Burn WOTC! BURN! J/k, thrilled for the potential crossover for once.

OT: Still debating whether I want to answer this topic seriously. Probably not worth the effort.

[Sufjann]

Don't you people get bored of having the same discussion every time content is released? Sometimes the content is not for you and that's ok, just unsub for a while and play other games.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Don't you people get bored of having the same discussion every time content is released? Sometimes the content is not for you and that's ok, just unsub for a while and play other games.

Honestly you aren't wrong. This place is a lost cause trapped in a never ending cycle of mess. (Wouldn't be shocked if the devs think so as well).

[Kaurhz]

Don't you people get bored of having the same discussion every time content is released? Sometimes the content is not for you and that's ok, just unsub for a while and play other games.

Don't be so logical about it. Gosh...

[Nizzi]

Remember last time "Forum" asking for Healer to have more things to heal and uLtiMaTE toO eAsy, we got Healers shortages across all DC. Good job with preventions.
If you don't have anything good to contribute, maybe just be quiet and let others with good ideas.

"The game is dying I must save it" is getting old.

You are so duplicitous it's unreal. First it's "No there are no shortages for healers! There are more healers in the game than ever! Game is more popular than ever!" when we were saying there were healer shortages in ShB and Asphodelos across the entire game due to the design direction SE took healers, now it's "There are healer shortages but it's because of YOU!" It can't be SE's fault for making the entire role boring, no, it's your fellow players for telling them that 1 button spam is boring garbage. If there's such a healer shortage, why don't you step up and heal yourself if healing is in a good spot? Funny how it's always die hard DPS and Tank mains telling us about our role that we play and they don't.

If you don't have anything good to contribute, maybe just be quiet

The irony of this is lost on you, surely.