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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    You operate on this notion that your way is THE right way. That your way is the tried n true way to "save" the game. Very self important

    XIV isn't top mmo to who? Is that backed by numbers or is that an opinion? I'm not saying youre wrong. I'm simply asking if you're stating this as a fact and if its backed up with numbers. Also you're saying people who don't think EW has fallen off are immature? If so that take make no sense...like at all. If that is what you're saying again youre putting on this "holier than thou" standpoint that's just not needed.

    You want people to discuss thing with you in good faith? Start being considerate of others opinions that differ to yours.
    It's usually people like this that have the biggest egos in the community, believing they have all the right solutions. I recall somebody saying that players are experts in finding problems in a game, however they're not capable of coming up solutions to those problems and to me that holds very much true these days.
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    It's usually people like this that have the biggest egos in the community, believing they have all the right solutions. I recall somebody saying that players are experts in finding problems in a game, however they're not capable of coming up solutions to those problems and to me that holds very much true these days.
    That's because (as someone else famously said) players don't know what it is they actually want or need.
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    It's usually people like this that have the biggest egos in the community, believing they have all the right solutions. I recall somebody saying that players are experts in finding problems in a game, however they're not capable of coming up solutions to those problems and to me that holds very much true these days.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    That's because (as someone else famously said) players don't know what it is they actually want or need.
    A lot of the time I asked people who just complain about something being bad(and not elaborating how/why) what they would do to improve it I would get the answer of "it's not my job to think of that"....in other words they were complaining to have their 5 seconds of fame as the OP on a post that would get 10-20 pages on average.
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