The Lessons Not Learned.

[Avatre]

Kind of ironic how this applies to both of you, since it's pretty clear that neither of you remember the first step of the Heavensward relic.
Y'know, the step that required a significant amount of time farming FATEs in every Heavensward zone, for a total of 18 crystals (3 from each zone).

Please see bolded part from my initial post in this thread.

But haven't almost all relics started with a stupid easy, done in no time flat, first step? The only one I can think of that took any time was ARR when you had to go out into the world to find the treasure that got turned into the relic. The others were mostly tomestone related, were they not(been a while since I did them, so I could be wrong on some of them)?

[Alleo]

Kind of ironic how this applies to both of you, since it's pretty clear that neither of you remember the first step of the Heavensward relic.
Y'know, the step that required a significant amount of time farming FATEs in every Heavensward zone, for a total of 18 crystals (3 from each zone).

And others could just turn in their old relic and be done. Just like someone that has already farmed the 1.500 stones can turn it in right away, while someone like me who has just bought some gear will need to do quite a bit of content to get back there.

That is also only for one relic. Those of us who play more than one job will also have quite some things to grind.

[Nezerius]

I just turned in my 2.0 relic, was done instantly.

This may come as a surprise to you, but not everyone was running around with a Zeta relic by the time 3.15 was released.

[Avatre]

And others could just turn in their old relic and be done. Just like someone that has already farmed the 1.500 stones can turn it in right away, while someone like me who has just bought some gear will need to do quite a bit of content to get back there.

That is also only for one relic. Those of us who play more than one job will also have quite some things to grind.

Don't forget those like me who are collectors and will end up with all the relics finished.

[Kaurhz]

I'd be curious to see how many more people would be complaining if they actually went the similar route to ARR-SB for their relics, seeing as we have 19 classes now, and not only that but seeing how many people historically hated these stages of the relic pre-nerf.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

This may come as a surprise to you, but not everyone was running around with a Zeta relic by the time 3.15 was released.

I had 3 of them by then lol. All done before each step was nerfed.

Same with the Animas, tho I have them all completed now. Ironically, I have none from eureka that are fully completed, tho slowly working on the bozja ones as I did all my DR runs before 6.0 released.

The only "hard part" about eureka was leveling up. The rest was just grind fates for items and get relic... Once leveled you could finish a relic in a day if you really wanted to.

[Nezerius]

Please see bolded part from my initial post in this thread.

You sure got on your high horse pretty quickly in the posts after that though, despite forgetting about a relic that isn't even as old as the 2.0 one.

And others could just turn in their old relic and be done. Just like someone that has already farmed the 1.500 stones can turn it in right away, while someone like me who has just bought some gear will need to do quite a bit of content to get back there.

It's amusing that you're comparing the 2.0 Zeta grind to something short like 1500 tomestones.

Don't forget those like me who are collectors and will end up with all the relics finished.

It was incredibly rare to find someone who finished all the Zeta weapons during ARR. But you wouldn't know, considering you haven't even finished a Zeta relic until 2020.

I had 3 of them by then lol. All done before each step was nerfed.

Congrats? I finished the DRG, WHM and PLD ones during ARR. Point remains that the majority of the players going into Heavensward didn't have one, and had to do the first step properly.

[Bukachu]

What are you talking about? All you do is grind tomestones to buy 3 items for your base weapon

you needd, to do, questline, before, you can turn in, those 3 items.

which part, is unclear?

[ty_taurus]

Hasn't the first step of the last couple relics been relatively fast and easy, and then future steps start taking more time?

Something else to consider is that they may be balancing the grind around the amount of total jobs which continues to increases. There were 9 jobs at the start of ARR. Now there are 19. Sure it's no time at all to get 1 weapon, but if you want to grind more, then do all of them.

[Avatre]

It was incredibly rare to find someone who finished all the Zeta weapons during ARR. But you wouldn't know, considering you haven't even finished a Zeta relic until 2020.

And your point? I never claimed that I did them before HW. Hell, I didn't start playing until April 2015, so only a few months pre-HW. I only stated that I am collecting all of them.

I did all Bozja prior to any nerfs to it, I did up to Pyros with everything and those haven't been nerfed other than being able to buy the zones boss pieces from a vendor for the zones crystals. I will get all of the EW relics pre-nerf as well, as it gives me something to actually do in game other than send retainers/airship/submersible out, weekly deliveries, and WT every two weeks because that's basically how much I've been playing lately.

Edit: Also, for the HW relics, I had BLM, PLD, DRG, AST, and I think at least one more done before that started the nerfs on that. I knew there was the crystal farming, but wasn't sure if it was first step or not.