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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Because goodness knows that none of the influencers in SE’s pocket are willing to do so.
    Interesting that you mention that. It's my personal theory (and probably several others' too) that the best way for a company to get fans to gloss over conspicuous errors is to form a very strong parasocial relationship with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    Interesting that you mention that. It's my personal theory (and probably several others' too) that the best way for a company to get fans to gloss over conspicuous errors is to form a very strong parasocial relationship with them.
    Definitely agreed. Thus creating those players who are the textbook definitions of white knights and toxic positivity, which must be called out given the path they are dragging this game down by failing to call out the lack of quality we've seen this expansion across multiple fronts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Definitely agreed. Thus creating those players who are the textbook definitions of white knights and toxic positivity, which must be called out given the path they are dragging this game down by failing to call out the lack of quality we've seen this expansion across multiple fronts.
    It's not white knighting. We know there are issues. Some of those issues are stupid and make no sense why the issue is there in the first place...however we all have things we DO like.

    So I'm directly asking you. What makes you come back to the game? What DO you like if ANYTHING about the game. If your answer is nothing...why stay?
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    It's not white knighting. We know there are issues. Some of those issues are stupid and make no sense why the issue is there in the first place...however we all have things we DO like.

    So I'm directly asking you. What makes you come back to the game? What DO you like if ANYTHING about the game. If your answer is nothing...why stay?
    It's Ok Aveyond. Maybe you didn't see my question yet somehow only respond to select people. So I'll just quote myself and my question till you answer. I got all the time in the world and no...I won't let this slide. I'm persistent
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    It's Ok Aveyond. Maybe you didn't see my question yet somehow only respond to select people. So I'll just quote myself and my question till you answer. I got all the time in the world and no...I won't let this slide. I'm persistent
    He might have you on ignore. Is he allowed to repeat things he's already said? Like the dynamic that happened during HW and basically all of HW? Cause it was full of dark and gritty and gray in morals and color. And how at least one character from back then somehow got defanged? Just cause they realized they were going down a bad path and after almost dying and having their old purpose in life not be a needed thing anymore went on to find another purpose?

    Course he could also start in on all the non democratic governments the game had before they all became that way. Even though that horse has been made into violin strings, meat pies and glue by now with various people pointing out the actual differences in the styles of governments even post changes "debate" again.

    I do remember him making a thread that didn't start out as their normal threads to the point I even mentioned it. Sadly I don't remember what that was as it got swallowed up by the many complaint threads he's made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    He might have you on ignore. Is he allowed to repeat things he's already said? Like the dynamic that happened during HW and basically all of HW? Cause it was full of dark and gritty and gray in morals and color. And how at least one character from back then somehow got defanged? Just cause they realized they were going down a bad path and after almost dying and having their old purpose in life not be a needed thing anymore went on to find another purpose?

    Course he could also start in on all the non democratic governments the game had before they all became that way. Even though that horse has been made into violin strings, meat pies and glue by now with various people pointing out the actual differences in the styles of governments even post changes "debate" again.

    I do remember him making a thread that didn't start out as their normal threads to the point I even mentioned it. Sadly I don't remember what that was as it got swallowed up by the many complaint threads he's made.
    That may be he's blocked me and frankly I think it's about time I should block him because I hate crybabies and he's the biggest crybaby I've ever seen. Time to be an adult I guess and just block him. You've made a good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    That may be he's blocked me and frankly I think it's about time I should block him because I hate crybabies and he's the biggest crybaby I've ever seen. Time to be an adult I guess and just block him. You've made a good point.
    Yeah, the hypocrisy is real with that fool. We shouldn't silence his voice, but don't you dare approach him with any kind of reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    Interesting that you mention that. It's my personal theory (and probably several others' too) that the best way for a company to get fans to gloss over conspicuous errors is to form a very strong parasocial relationship with them.
    That would certainly explain why Cyberpunk 2077 was such a hit at launch.
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