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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    There's just no incentive for SE to fix any of these mistakes because the game pulls in plenty of cash, regardless. SE probably considers them an acceptable loss.
    All I know is that it is embarrassing that this is the state the game is in nearly 11 months into Endwalker. We somehow have less fresh new content than we did back in Shadowbringers and worse rewards besides. We have no promise of something worth logging in more than once a week for until 6.35’s Deep Dungeon, assuming that they don’t strip it of rewards and leave it in a state as bare as Variant/Criterion’s rewards. Not to mention the writing – as pointed out in this other thread regarding the disastrous state of the Omicron quests.

    My praise is hard earned. Once a standard is set, I will hold things to that standard and analyse based on that. Endwalker so far has not proven satisfactory, but I want it to be successful and be more than what it is right now. I don’t go looking for reasons to be dissatisfied with the game. I like looking for things that I can give honest praise to but aside from Pandaemonium’s writing there hasn’t been much in the way of that. This isn’t a position I like being in, but someone has to speak openly about the issues FFXIV is facing. Because goodness knows that none of the influencers in SE’s pocket are willing to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    All I know is that it is embarrassing that this is the state the game is in nearly 11 months into Endwalker. We somehow have less fresh new content than we did back in Shadowbringers and worse rewards besides. We have no promise of something worth logging in more than once a week for until 6.35’s Deep Dungeon, assuming that they don’t strip it of rewards and leave it in a state as bare as Variant/Criterion’s rewards. Not to mention the writing – as pointed out in this other thread regarding the disastrous state of the Omicron quests.

    My praise is hard earned. Once a standard is set, I will hold things to that standard and analyse based on that. Endwalker so far has not proven satisfactory, but I want it to be successful and be more than what it is right now. I don’t go looking for reasons to be dissatisfied with the game. I like looking for things that I can give honest praise to but aside from Pandaemonium’s writing there hasn’t been much in the way of that. This isn’t a position I like being in, but someone has to speak openly about the issues FFXIV is facing. Because goodness knows that none of the influencers in SE’s pocket are willing to do so.
    You can't really talk about influencers in SE's pocket...when you yourself still pay a sub for a game you claim is in such a bad state. By that logic you're no better than them realistically because the monetary gain doesn't change.

    Example, Bethesda has no reason to release bug free n complete games when the community will still constantly buy n just fix their games for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post

    Example, Bethesda has no reason to release bug free n complete games when the community will still constantly buy n just fix their games for them.
    True story. I think I bought skyrim like four or five times. Wish I was kidding, but I was young and dumb...butt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    True story. I think I bought skyrim like four or five times. Wish I was kidding, but I was young and dumb...butt.
    Skyrim, the game we are sick of seeing Re-Re-REEEEEEEEEEEEEE-Released for the 50th time....yet we keep on buying it.
    Man I want Elder Scrolls VI already
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Skyrim, the game we are sick of seeing Re-Re-REEEEEEEEEEEEEE-Released for the 50th time....yet we keep on buying it.
    Man I want Elder Scrolls VI already
    Was never a Skyrim fan myself so I was sparred. I've bought...Mass Effect mutiple times for different consoles but that'd about it lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Was never a Skyrim fan myself so I was sparred. I've bought...Mass Effect mutiple times for different consoles but that'd about it lol
    To be Fair...Mass Effect was an awesome Game.
    Even if 3 fell short at the end, and if Andromeda...was...a Mess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Skyrim, the game we are sick of seeing Re-Re-REEEEEEEEEEEEEE-Released for the 50th time....yet we keep on buying it.
    Man I want Elder Scrolls VI already
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    ngl that has the same vibe as "I bought WinRAR" ; w ; bless
    Yes but they promised me cool graphics and mods on ps4 so I caved...;—;...

    As for winrar...................


    Kidding I didn’t buy that BUT I almost gave away my moms card because I was 14, just got a pc and saw I won the lottery with a pop up add :3...I called her happy but she laughed at me. Whatevs its her fault we aren’t millionaires now. XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Because goodness knows that none of the influencers in SE’s pocket are willing to do so.
    Interesting that you mention that. It's my personal theory (and probably several others' too) that the best way for a company to get fans to gloss over conspicuous errors is to form a very strong parasocial relationship with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    Interesting that you mention that. It's my personal theory (and probably several others' too) that the best way for a company to get fans to gloss over conspicuous errors is to form a very strong parasocial relationship with them.
    Definitely agreed. Thus creating those players who are the textbook definitions of white knights and toxic positivity, which must be called out given the path they are dragging this game down by failing to call out the lack of quality we've seen this expansion across multiple fronts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Definitely agreed. Thus creating those players who are the textbook definitions of white knights and toxic positivity, which must be called out given the path they are dragging this game down by failing to call out the lack of quality we've seen this expansion across multiple fronts.
    It's not white knighting. We know there are issues. Some of those issues are stupid and make no sense why the issue is there in the first place...however we all have things we DO like.

    So I'm directly asking you. What makes you come back to the game? What DO you like if ANYTHING about the game. If your answer is nothing...why stay?
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