The Lessons Not Learned.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Actually, these days? WOW is the pvp / m plus / raid meta and they dont actually give a TOSS for anyone else. Their open world content is a sick joke...actually its non existent.

Now, yes. (At least, from what I've heard, it's been a few expacs since I've played it myself.) Back in Wrath, they got complaints of going too casual and making Heroic dungeons too easy. Then in Cataclysm they went the other way and made them too hard. Then in Mists the dungeons were overall more accessible, but they took the cap off of daily quests, so people were accusing them of forcing raiders to no-life it to get all those enchants and crafting recipes they'd need to optimize. And so on. It swings around depending on who's in charge and who you listen to about it.

[Thaciscokidd]

Now, yes. (At least, from what I've heard, it's been a few expacs since I've played it myself.) Back in Wrath, they got complaints of going too casual and making Heroic dungeons too easy. Then in Cataclysm they went the other way and made them too hard. Then in Mists the dungeons were overall more accessible, but they took the cap off of daily quests, so people were accusing them of forcing raiders to no-life it to get all those enchants and crafting recipes they'd need to optimize. And so on. It swings around depending on who's in charge and who you listen to about it.

I've never agreed with a statement more than this. You can't please all of the people all of the time.

Over the years the goal post shifted. You can see it with Elden Ring earlier this year(man this year when by fast) with people asking for easy modes in a souls game or in contrast people asking for a harder Pokémon game. Everyone these days want to be able to play any game and that game cater to them.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I've never agreed with a statement more than this. You can't please all of the people all of the time.

Over the years the goal post shifted. You can see it with Elden Ring earlier this year(man this year when by fast) with people asking for easy modes in a souls game or in contrast people asking for a harder Pokémon game. Everyone these days want to be able to play any game and that game cater to them.

I mean, Pokemon did have a hard mode once, in Black and White 2. Except you needed to find someone who'd already beaten the Champion in Black 2 (beating White 2 unlocked Easy Mode instead), then get them to transfer an unlock key, then start a new file with it. It was a stupidly convoluted way to do it, even more so now that BW2 are several console generations behind. So people are mostly just asking for that to come back, but as an option at game start, rather than some messy multiple unlock.

[VelKallor]

Then in Mists the dungeons were overall more accessible, but they took the cap off of daily quests, so people were accusing them of forcing raiders to no-life it to get all those enchants and crafting recipes they'd need to optimize

Oh GOD dont remind me , that Celestials grind was...UGH...Mists was good tbh, a very apparently sunny themed expac that was in fact dark and grim once you got into it. Then they followed it up with that....*makes disgusted look...Warlords of Draenor which was a totally industrial sized fwe heap, when will they LEARN that that stupid, IDIOTIC faction war stunk worse than a six month old hunk of steak left out in 130 degree heat

Its old. Its out of date. No one takes that hackneyed, lazy refuse seriously anymore, other than one or two brainless prats who rant on about "faction pride"

They took MoP's storyline and replaced it with "Me Orc, me no like human, orc smash"

Blech.

[TheGrimace]

OP and their supporters are impossible to please.

[aveyond-dreams]

OP and their supporters are impossible to please.

That isn’t true though. Give me good story, good content with sufficient rewards, and good gameplay for my chosen job in a timely manner and you wouldn’t see much of me around here.

Instead we got an expansion that goes from blunder to blunder in each of the above categories.

[VelKallor]

That isn’t true though. Give me good story, good content with sufficient rewards, and good gameplay for my chosen job in a timely manner and you wouldn’t see much of me around here.

Endwalker provides all of that now, but you cant be pleased, not to mention your continued prating on how you could do better....when you cant and we both know it. Your comments on "good story" are based on your continued "claims" that "you know what everyone wants" which is utter rubbish. NOT ONCE have you ever admitted you could be wrong. Not once have you admitted that what you want may very well be NOT what everyone else wants.

Instead we got an expansion that goes from blunder to blunder in each of the above categories.

Opinion. Not fact by any means.

I am enjoying it all immensely, so are many of my friends and FC members. People other than you are having fun with the game and dont have the same issues you do..but somehow you know what they want, without ever even asking them?

Please...

[Axxion]

Endwalker provides all of that now, but you cant be pleased, not to mention your continued prating on how you could do better....when you cant and we both know it. Your comments on "good story" are based on your continued "claims" that "you know what everyone wants" which is utter rubbish. NOT ONCE have you ever admitted you could be wrong. Not once have you admitted that what you want may very well be NOT what everyone else wants.



Opinion. Not fact by any means.

I am enjoying it all immensely, so are many of my friends and FC members. People other than you are having fun with the game and dont have the same issues you do..but somehow you know what they want, without ever even asking them?

Please...

all jokes aside. are you okay. you seem very annoyed

[DrWho2010]

That isn’t true though. Give me good story, good content with sufficient rewards, and good gameplay for my chosen job in a timely manner and you wouldn’t see much of me around here.

Instead we got an expansion that goes from blunder to blunder in each of the above categories.

that is so incredibly subjective. by your standards, and past posting history, nothing could ever possibly satisfy you. you'd still find something to complain about.

[CheshCa7]

That isn’t true though. Give me good story, good content with sufficient rewards, and good gameplay for my chosen job in a timely manner and you wouldn’t see much of me around here.

Instead we got an expansion that goes from blunder to blunder in each of the above categories.

I actually read your "rewrite" of EW. If that is what you would consider good story then I am sorry to say but no, thanks.