The Lessons Not Learned.

[IkaraGreydancer]

oh please give it a break will you



ok troll



I know who is a lost cause, and who isnt. Some people genuinely want to have a discussion, despite disagreements, and then some people just want to troll, i will gladly ignore the latter.

Still lying I see. I presented points to your statements. I'm here to discuss not troll. Yet you n select others buckle each time I and many others do this n try to dip off with an insult.

What you deem a "lost cause" is in reality someone who is willing to challenge your views n stick to their guns. Stop with the bs dude...

[Stormpeaks]

Still lying I see. I presented points to your statements. I'm here to discuss not troll. Yet you n select others buckle each time I and many others do this n try to dip off with an insult.

What you deem a "lost cause" is in reality someone who is willing to challenge your views n stick to their guns. Stop with the bs dude...

I already mentioned it multiple times, all you do is defend Square at all cost, no matter what point is being "challenged", you always take SE's side and try and find them excuses. That makes it absolutely pointless to even try and discuss with you.

Housing issue ? Duh blame the players they dont NEED to have a house !

Glam issue and character creation screen too limited, being unable to preview emotes and glams from the creation menu ? Well you have youtube to watch it, "why would they put it in the game when you have alternatives" was literally your point.

You just always find something to someone defend them, and as I just said, it makes it pointless to even try and discuss something with you, I already know what you will respond next.

And yet you're still (unfortunately) subbed to the game and gracing us with your trolling presence...

Your trolling presence isnt any better than his.

[IkaraGreydancer]

I already mentioned it multiple times, all you do is defend Square at all cost, no matter what point is being "challenged", you always take SE's side and try and find them excuses. That makes it absolutely pointless to even try and discuss with you.

Housing issue ? Duh blame the players they dont NEED to have a house !

Glam issue ? Well you have youtube to watch it, why would they put it in the game when you have alternatives ?

You just always find something to someone defend them, and as I just said, it makes it pointless to even try and discuss something with you, I already know what you will respond next.



Your trolling presence isnt any better than his.

And we're STILL lying!!! When did I EVER say housing was fine? I said you are responsible for your own choices and your connection to your house. FACTUALLY you aren't being forced to do anything. Nobody NEEDS a house. It is a luxury. Again another FACT.

Glam issue I said could for sure be revised but UNTIL THEN you have some alternatives. Hell someone even pointed out that hair is one of the things you dont have an alternative to check n I even said that was true n agreed. Not ONCE did I say "why would they put it in the game when you have alternatives". More made up bs.

I'm sick n tired of you lying on my name dude. Its pathetic asf. Hell I even said in this very thread the game could use some work. How tf does that translate to me always defending? News flash!!! It's doesnt.

Let's say I WAS always defending the game. You have no issue with OP always crapping on it. So if that extreme is ok then the other should be ok where someone always defends. If one isn't ok nor should the other be.

But yeah I'm just a "lost cause". Right xD

[LianaThorne]

Gotta love people in here trashing on someone who had to leave an active war zone and ever since then has been trying to find somewhere not only to live but work. All of these interruptions has put a lot of stress, strain and with how both Twitch and YouTube work is also a financial loss. So, she's chosen the fireside chats as a form of therapy. When she's not raiding. Also didn't think we'd get some ageism in here. Though I guess I shouldn't be too surprised considering the source with how some other opinions they have can be taken as sexist amongst other things.

What does being in a war zone, her age or being a woman have to do with her professionalism going down hill for a while now? I'm pretty sure none of those have any affect on it.

My issue is she brings up threads on here for views/bait and then doesn't look past the OPs post before commenting on it, pretty much ignoring any other type of reasoning given by other people here. If you're going to report on something, do your research and get more than one opinion before giving your own. All she did with her most recent video is make a joke out of someones opinion and that's an interesting choice for someone who's supposed to be "on the players side".

[Stormpeaks]

What does being in a war zone, her age or being a woman have to do with her professionalism going down hill for a while now? I'm pretty sure none of those have any affect on it.

Now now please dont use too much common sense, you cant call out someone on what they do wrong without being called a sexist and an ageist. It's 2022.

Any sort of criticism is not allowed, it's all about toxic positivity.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Any sort of criticism is not allowed, it's all about toxic positivity.

This Lie should really stop being spread.

[IkaraGreydancer]

This Lie should really stop being spread.

It's only spread really buy the very people complaining. Most people aren't saying you can't criticize. They just have different views when it comes to things people criticize. It's odd they talk about toxic positivity while being passive aggressive.

I ask anyone reading this, how often do you see people say the game is perfect n needs nothing fixed here? People here seem to only deal in extremes n absolutes. If folks apparently aren't allowed to criticize the game it would also seem folks aren't allowed to love it either

[Deveryn]

What does being in a war zone, her age or being a woman have to do with her professionalism going down hill for a while now? I'm pretty sure none of those have any affect on it.

My issue is she brings up threads on here for views/bait and then doesn't look past the OPs post before commenting on it, pretty much ignoring any other type of reasoning given by other people here. If you're going to report on something, do your research and get more than one opinion before giving your own.

You lost me on this whole "professionalism" thing. She's just a gamer / content creator / streamer. This is twitch / youtube, not ESPN. It's too bad your boyfriend there has thin skin and can't actually stand his opinion being picked apart and happened to give many people a good laugh. That's what happens when you post your opinion about the critically acclaimed MMO FFXIV in a space like this, where some of these folks likely lurk.

[LianaThorne]

You lost me on this whole "professionalism" thing. She's just a gamer / content creator / streamer. This is twitch / youtube, not ESPN. It's too bad your boyfriend there has thin skin and can't actually stand his opinion being picked apart and happened to give many people a good laugh. That's what happens when you post your opinion about the critically acclaimed MMO FFXIV in a space like this, where some of these folks likely lurk.

She's still a public figure and has a voice that affects the community with how popular she is, what's your point? Do only sports commentators need to be professional now? Lol

Also what boyfriend? I'm discussing her and her video regarding this?

[kpxmanifesto]

Unfortunately there are no better MMO options out there right now, that doesnt mean that the game is top tier quality, that just means that it's the "best" of a pile of mediocre MMO's.

Yup, this for sure. FFXIV is a decent game, don't get me wrong, but the game's competition are other MMOs like wow and gw2, which IMO, are way worse than FF.

The next big MMOs to look forward to are probably ashes of creation or the league of legends MMO.