The Lessons Not Learned.

[Midareyukki]

You're completely right. I don't own anything. This is why, in my post, I said "this is just my opinion." I know I'm in the extreme minority, and I was never intending to represent a group of people (those who view very violent / graphic media) with my opinion. I firmly stated everything I said as my opinion as well as that I didn't understand. I don't understand. I don't need to understand. I'm simply providing feedback. I'm ok with you disagreeing with it. You can think my opinion is wrong, just like I think yours is.

I hope this feedback helps the development team in any way possible.

Except your "opinion", as you claim it, is entirely based on a false premiss. You called it "extremely unfriendly", when it is anyhing but. Especially in comparison to all the rest we've gotten that can compare to Bozja. I'm not stating that as an opinion, that's a fact, you have actual comparisons there to be made to corroborate whether it is indeed unfriendly or not. Whether you still feel like it is past it, that's an opinion. But tell me, if I came to you and said "Yoshida dresses up like a horse every night" just because I feel like he is (he just has one of those faces), wouldn't you think I was kooky?

I don't know where you got that you're representing any group of people... at all. I said that you're saying things like you're on such a pedestal when it's not only not your job, it's also not your right to do so? Feedback can be provided in a certain way, what you want is to usurp what the creative team is doing and implement your own vision. You clearly were okay going through ARR and endured the evil, and you know how it's evolved. And you're complaining now?

And Arrow, you're the one stating stuff is an opinion, yet you approach the topic with:

I come to entertainment to get away from the evils of the world. I do not want to see that in my video games. People can throw around the rating all day, this is just my opinion. I have no idea why our society has come to a point of basically worshipping purely evil and absolutely detestable media, but it is what it is. I have this forum, so I'll fight for more restrained content every day. This is meant to be a sanctuary away from the pains of real life, not a pile in the ground for my nose to be rubbed in it.

Is it what it is?
Is the game out for your blood and try to rub you on dirt?
Who told you the game had to be that sanctuary? You?
Or did you get into something with a tone that made you uncomfortable and can't admit that the issue lies in you? That the game you purchased has those elements that you cannot concile with and instead just blamed everyone else for something you couldn't accept?

And you can disagree with whether I'm right in calling you out, of course. But at least I'm not calling the sky yellow and convincing people that it is yellow on a whim.
There is no such thing as a "wrong opinion". You can't value subjectivity that way. What there is is just someone being a bit daft and getting called out. Especially when they try to pass it as "opinion".

Edit: Also, if I'm right... why are you saying you find me wrong at the end? -.w.`

[Lazariah]

Except your "opinion", as you claim it, is entirely based on a false premiss. You called it "extremely unfriendly", when it is anyhing but. Especially in comparison to all the rest we've gotten that can compare to Bozja. I'm not stating that as an opinion, that's a fact, you have actual comparisons there to be made to corroborate whether it is indeed unfriendly or not. Whether you still feel like it is past it, that's an opinion. But tell me, if I came to you and said "Yoshida dresses up like a horse every night" just because I feel like he is (he just has one of those faces), wouldn't you think I was kooky?

I don't know where you got that you're representing any group of people... at all. I said that you're saying things like you're on such a pedestal when it's not only not your job, it's also not your right to do so? Feedback can be provided in a certain way, what you want is to usurp what the creative team is doing and implement your own vision. You clearly were okay going through ARR and endured the evil, and you know how it's evolved. And you're complaining now?

And Arrow, you're the one stating stuff is an opinion, yet you approach the topic with:


Is it what it is?
Is the game out for your blood and try to rub you on dirt?
Who told you the game had to be that sanctuary? You?
Or did you get into something with a tone that made you uncomfortable and can't admit that the issue lies in you? That the game you purchased has those elements that you cannot concile with and instead just blamed everyone else for something you couldn't accept?

And you can disagree with whether I'm right in calling you out, of course. But at least I'm not calling the sky yellow and convincing people that it is yellow on a whim.
There is no such thing as a "wrong opinion". You can't value subjectivity that way. What there is is just someone being a bit daft and getting called out. Especially when they try to pass it as "opinion".

Edit: Also, if I'm right... why are you saying you find me wrong at the end? -.w.`

Jesus dude you act like she murdered your cat or something. Let her have her opinion. Who cares? You are getting way to upset about this.

[kpxmanifesto]

??

There's a difference between criticizing someone's opinion and criticizing someone personally. I feel like many people on these forums don't understand there's a fine line between the two.

[Yukimin]

Great Community By The Way

[kpxmanifesto]

Great Community By The Way

Lmao, the irony of this cracks me up every time.

[Elizasylen]

would've liked Criterion to be a source of Shines Brines and Twines tbh, feels like a wasted opportunity.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I like to seriously believe at this point that WoW has single-handedly brainwashed the MMO community where the expected norm is to do tedious grinding, wasting your time and getting into unfun reward loops for character progression. While this still doesnt excuse the small amount of unique rewards given for your purchases in variant/criterion dungeons, I still think the experience in doing them alongside the completion aspect of getting all the routes and unique rewards is nice enough to not warrant having to repeatedly do the content till you get sick and tired of it.

People expecting to have content that legit holds their attention till next patch seriously needs to reconsider their game time management priorities. And before I hear the tired excuse of "muh precious sub" to try to justify staying in the game then if you're having a hard time trying to even answer your reason for staying subbed then that means you clearly dont need to continue playing this game till next content patch. So far the game has done very well with that business model so no use trying to criticize something that's clearly working for the consumer and the dev team.

[Midareyukki]

I like to seriously believe at this point that WoW has single-handedly brainwashed the MMO community where the expected norm is to do tedious grinding, wasting your time and getting into unfun reward loops for character progression. While this still doesnt excuse the small amount of unique rewards given for your purchases in variant/criterion dungeons, I still think the experience in doing them alongside the completion aspect of getting all the routes and unique rewards is nice enough to not warrant having to repeatedly do the content till you get sick and tired of it.

People expecting to have content that legit holds their attention till next patch seriously needs to reconsider their game time management priorities. And before I hear the tired excuse of "muh precious sub" to try to justify staying in the game then if you're having a hard time trying to even answer your reason for staying subbed then that means you clearly dont need to continue playing this game till next content patch. So far the game has done very well with that business model so no use trying to criticize something that's clearly working for the consumer and the dev team.

It's not. But from someone who hasn't exactly played that many MMOs, all the MMOs I've played had their fair share of grinding as the main content, and it's a sure-fire way of making sure people stay subbed. Hell, even in games where you don't have a sub. Is there any other alternative? Because to me, yeah, grinding is normal for MMOs. WoW didn't brainwash me of that, FF14 did But while I can say 14 has too much grind on it, I don't think I've ever seen anything that didn't default to a grind in some way when it comes to MMOs...

[Meowdyj]

So what is the reward for clearing the savage version? Only more currency for already underwhelming rewards? Achievements, title?

[Soge01]

Not enough Jinglyshines.

*Sad Gobbie noises*