Variant & Criterion Dungeons

[Ransu]

All they had to do for these new dungeons was create a unique gearing system for them like Eureka. The most disappointing thing is that you can’t even mess around with different jobs. You’re pigeon holed to the job that you acquired savage gear with.

I had a few friends sign up just to mess around in harder 4man content and it’s not even doable without weeks of raid and/or tomestone gear. Why is that a requirement for a dungeon with no reward? A unique gear system inside the dungeon would solve this and let people explore different jobs as well.

You can clear it with the crafted 610 gear...

[Libby9]

You can’t clear savage dungeon in all 610, which should’ve said instead of “harder.” I thought it was obvious but my b

[CaedemSanguis]

You can clear it with the crafted 610 gear...

I ... dont think so xD

The ex version is maybe doable with a full i610 group, but savage is definetely not doable with a full i610 group

[AmamiyaSakura]

I enjoyed variant for the lore, loved the music and the boss design, and love that it's accessible to any party composition, including solo.

The housing items are cute, glam is nice and minions are also very cute.

A lot of comments in this thread are ignoring the fact that Yoshida was very clear from the moment this content was mentioned that it is not a deep dungeon. Yet, for reasons I cannot fathom, that's what everyone expected?

I personally really enjoyed this new kind of content. I look forward to challenging criterion in the future.

[Aniya_Estlihn]

A lot of comments in this thread are ignoring the fact that Yoshida was very clear from the moment this content was mentioned that it is not a deep dungeon. Yet, for reasons I cannot fathom, that's what everyone expected?

I've learned that people on the forums and just in the community at large don't watch PLLs or pay attention to news of any kind for fear of being spoiled on it. Because had people done so, they'd have known that 6.3X will have Deep Dungeon #3 and that Variant/Criterion are completely brand new content unassociated to it in any tangible way... if they'd, you know, actually pay attention. Yet here we are.

[AmpelioB]

I've learned that people on the forums and just in the community at large don't watch PLLs or pay attention to news of any kind for fear of being spoiled on it. Because had people done so, they'd have known that 6.3X will have Deep Dungeon #3 and that Variant/Criterion are completely brand new content unassociated to it in any tangible way... if they'd, you know, actually pay attention. Yet here we are.

it may be new content but comparable with content we already have it falls flat. Criterion has the same difficulty of potd +100 and the rewards for it are just poor or worse from content we have from 5 years ago. ...from a content aimed at hardcore players since Criterion has an Savage version.

it was a good addition but they could've done better

[Ransu]

I ... dont think so xD

The ex version is maybe doable with a full i610 group, but savage is definetely not doable with a full i610 group

You can absolutely clear the savage in 610 gear.

[MisterNublet]

You can absolutely clear the savage in 610 gear.

You're right. People also cleared p8s with 610 gear. That doesn't mean everyone else can, nor should be attempting at this point. Especially in ASSS. Between time limit, enrages, outgoing damage, and 1 death=wipe... anything not near 630 or BiS is borderline trolling and you'll be stressing out your healer (and annoying your party).

[CaedemSanguis]

You can absolutely clear the savage in 610 gear.

Considering Im very close to death on each trashmobs packs (im 630 and my heal is 625), i doubt very very much that a i610 tank+heal can get through the dungeon