Variant & Criterion Dungeons

[Winterfang]

Bozja was a nice improvement over Eureka, but even that still has room for improvement.

Oh I'm definitely not going to disagree with you there. I love content like this, but even the most recent Bozja content was riddled with issues, from internal decisions and external circumstances beyond their control.
On the rest of your post, that's fair enough. Trying really hard to remember if they mentioned why no large scale content for EW in a previous LL or Q&A, but if that is the circumstances with their stance on large scale content at the moment then I can't fault them for that.
I do worry whether this is just taking a break to learn from mistakes or they're not going to do them going forward anymore.

Now that being said, that still doesn't really change my stance that what did replace it with isn't good so far and the lackluster rewards are just a cherry on top of a spilled sundae so here's hoping it's improved for the next dungeon.

[Baxcel]

This is the kicker for me. The content I look forward to the most was told to Take 5 this expansion and this is what they made in it's stead. Rather disappointing by comparison and the bad rewards, 2 mounts I personally don't care for and an outfit that doesn't look good on me, aren't exactly stimulating for me. Hoping something improves for the future V&C Dungeons as the game now lacks larger scale content that I like outside of one weekly Alliance Raid run

Yep, major shame on SE.. not only can we not wear the hat, but the suit looks awful on Hrothgar

[angienessyo]

This is the kicker for me. The content I look forward to the most was told to Take 5 this expansion and this is what they made in it's stead. Rather disappointing by comparison and the bad rewards, 2 mounts I personally don't care for and an outfit that doesn't look good on me, aren't exactly stimulating for me. Hoping something improves for the future V&C Dungeons as the game now lacks larger scale content that I like outside of one weekly Alliance Raid run

I loved Eureka and while I didn't enjoy Bozja as much, I still liked it. (I liked both enough to get Ozma+the Bozja bike) But I'm not at all shocked this style of content didn't return. People complained about Eureka non stop when it was new and they hated it so much that they made it to where the bulk of your relic grind could be done outside Bozja when that came out. And people still complained about Bozja, so I'm not expecting them to do Eureka/Bozja style content again.

I would like to see them expand upon Variant/Criterion dungeons in the future. Maybe gradually add more wings to do or something because I already did all the normal paths and I'm getting through harder versions fairly quickly with my group. The biggest problem with losing Eureka/Bozja is there isn't any sort of a grind to focus on at the moment.

[AmpelioB]

biggest problem with losing Eureka/Bozja is there isn't any sort of a grind to focus on at the moment.

While we got Gangos on 5.25 the Bozja Southern Front only came during the 5.35 together with the glowing Resistance Weapons

This is not something new, since hw relic has been going past and past behind patches

[Xerkrosis]

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its sad to know that we exchanged bozja/eureka content for this..
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Bozja came with 5.35. This equals more to 5.25's ShB relic story with Memoria Misera. For 6.3(5?) another deep dungeon was in planning as well as the 5th ultimate content.

[Deveryn]

Not surprised or disappointed. If you thought there would be gear in this with dungeons, crafted, tome and savage already out there, you played yourself.

[SentioftheHoukai]

Not surprised or disappointed. If you thought there would be gear in this with dungeons, crafted, tome and savage already out there, you played yourself.

Makes me wonder if anything makes you happy or brings joy and smile to your face. Or if you just smile and nod as the tenders bring you your soup with no solids in it and sedating music as you sit in your calming lawn chair.

These are not a replacement for bozja/eureka...This is explicitly new content and we are getting a new deep dungeon later on which does take the place of bozja content.

Since when was Bozja/Eureka in any way comparable to Deep Dungeons? One was always significantly larger in scope and had more lore to uncover, the other was barebones as all hells and had practically no story at all. Face it, and admit it. We got a downgrade.

I disagree. After progging a fresh run, there's value in the variety of jobs.

This whole set of dungeons is them thinking outside the box. There's finally 4 man content that's legit challenging and no one is excluded.

If so, then they have a lot of work to do yet.

If this is "thinking outside the box" to them, the best they can do then they're not gonna make it. This is not innovation, this is toeing the line.

Besides, so many people mentioned it being FFXIV's Mythic + content that it's not even that. It's just a lesser version of what WoW has already done. Innovation is defined by the invention of something not done before, a road never before tread. This is not that road.

[Deveryn]

Makes me wonder if anything makes you happy or brings joy and smile to your face. Or if you just smile and nod as the tenders bring you your soup with no solids in it and sedating music as you sit in your calming lawn chair.

You should stop trying to read from what's not presented there. I said what I said and that's all that needed to be said. I don't express much joy here because I already know what the response will be and it's rather dull.

[Ransu]

Since when was Bozja/Eureka in any way comparable to Deep Dungeons? One was always significantly larger in scope and had more lore to uncover, the other was barebones as all hells and had practically no story at all. Face it, and admit it. We got a downgrade..

Downgrade to who? Personally I hated Bozja and Eureka and find deep dungeons much more fun so I'm not going to "face" or "admit" anything. People like different content. Sucks for people that liked bozja style content, but you can't make everyone happy.

And who said anything about them being comparable? The dev team is just mixing content styles. Bozja/Eureka took the place of deep dungeons when they were new to switch things up. They are now going back to deep dungeons. Next expansion we'll get something else. This is how they have been handling that type of content in their post expansion schedules for years now.