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    Cetiri Mjeseca
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeNada View Post
    It's good that auto-demolition is off and hopefully it will be here to stay or at least that the timer be extended to longer than the current 45 days (at least 90 days imo).

    It's a really sucky feeling for one to come back to the game and realise that you've lost your house which you've worked so hard to obtain, I don't think housing is ever removed forcibly from players in other MMOs due to inactivity and it shouldn't be in FFXIV either. The solution should be to increase the housing supply and not punishing the playerbase.
    ON the other hand, if you're away from the game for 90 days, then you should expect the game to move on without you. That's 3-month's time. If you can't find something in 3 months to grab your attention enough to log in, then it's time for a new game, my friend. If you've been logging and and you haven't checked your house in 90 days, then you don't need a house. Not going to garner likes with this but I really think this is a fact that nobody wants to think about or hear because of the me-first attitude that tends to permeate the housing community.

    Re-instate auto demolition. Relinquish the unused houses to the community. I'm tired of my 1:350 chances of winning a house.
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    Hadrefort Sarmantoix
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    ON the other hand, if you're away from the game for 90 days, then you should expect the game to move on without you. That's 3-month's time. If you can't find something in 3 months to grab your attention enough to log in, then it's time for a new game, my friend. If you've been logging and and you haven't checked your house in 90 days, then you don't need a house. Not going to garner likes with this but I really think this is a fact that nobody wants to think about or hear because of the me-first attitude that tends to permeate the housing community.

    Re-instate auto demolition. Relinquish the unused houses to the community. I'm tired of my 1:350 chances of winning a house.
    Thanks for your feedback but I respectfully beg to differ.

    Given that the patch cycle between each major patch is around 4 months and the game producer, Yoship himself has advised players to unsubscribe should they feel that they have gotten their money worth out of their playtime, it is reasonable to assume that some players will subscribe for a month during a new patch cycle to enjoy the new patch content before unsubscribing instead of paying for a subscription perpetually.

    In this scenario, such a player will have an active subscription for 1 out of every 4 months, which is where the 90 day cycle which I suggested for auto-demolition is derived from. Nobody needs a virtual house in a MMO, it's a want. Don't get me wrong, I understand the frustration of bidding in a lottery and failing to get a house which I have experienced repeatedly myself in Balmung. Which is why I had an alt in Zurvan just to experience housing.

    Not saying that everyone should do what I did, but if you are unwilling to really want a house in your native data center, your best bet would be the existing new worlds if you are in EU or upcoming new data center (Nov 22) if you are in NA.
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    ON the other hand, if you're away from the game for 90 days, then you should expect the game to move on without you. That's 3-month's time. If you can't find something in 3 months to grab your attention enough to log in, then it's time for a new game, my friend. If you've been logging and and you haven't checked your house in 90 days, then you don't need a house. Not going to garner likes with this but I really think this is a fact that nobody wants to think about or hear because of the me-first attitude that tends to permeate the housing community.
    By your logic, then if you take a break for 90 days, remove mounts, levels, gil, etc. You don't need those levels or gil or achievements. No taking breaks in this game! SE should just delete your character after 90 days.

    Housing is the only aspect of the game that can be lost to a player. Nothing else goes away when they take a break. Where's the logic in that?
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    Liz Ard
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    By your logic, then if you take a break for 90 days, remove mounts, levels, gil, etc. You don't need those levels or gil or achievements. No taking breaks in this game! SE should just delete your character after 90 days.

    Housing is the only aspect of the game that can be lost to a player. Nothing else goes away when they take a break. Where's the logic in that?
    It's different, limited content that's currently meant for active players. I'm sorry but sometimes people should just accept that not ALL content is unlimited and everyone should have it. If you want unlimited housing, get an apartment and an FC room - do you actively decorate yours? Meanwhile lots of wards are ghost towns because there's a lot of houses empty from people that just stopped playing for too long and don't plan on coming back.
    The thing is, before your house is auto-demolished, you get warnings via email letting you know, so it really shouldn't be a surprise. Also, 3 months (used to be) the time between major patches, and active players usually wouldn't take breaks longer than that, since most people come back for the new content. If you're taking a longer break than that and is not interested in the new content, why do you need to hoard an empty house?! If you come back, and auto-demolition is on, you can try to get a new one via the lottery, since there will always be empty plots available. If you REALLY care about having a house that much, move to a server with housing available.

    I think auto-demolition is a good system and should be reactivated too. Maybe extend the demolition period to 4 months to match the new patch cycle, send a few more warnings via email about auto-demolition, or give an option for the person to extend the timer through lodestone or other means without having to resub once if needed.
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    Last edited by chizLemons; 10-21-2022 at 06:39 AM. Reason: typos

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    Quote Originally Posted by chizLemons View Post
    It's different, limited content that's currently meant for active players.
    That's the whole point. It is the only thing treated differently... by SE's choice.

    I've lost a house. When I took a break, there were still houses available on my server. I didn't think it was a big deal. Came back - still had my gil, mounts, achievements, levels, gear, etc. Just not my house. And I lost it in that first purge. A timeframe when auto-demolition wasn't even a topic mentioned by SE. Even better, my email sorted the auto-demolition notice into promotions/spam. I'm not salty about it. It is what it is. I just disagree that it exists at all.

    I've played lots of MMOs where the early players got certain gear, items, etc "easy" because there was less competition. And the newer players just had to deal. Housing is like that. And it is only like that since SE decided it will be so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rxantos View Post
    To be honest. The demolishing system is stealing. As the original owner is not paid back the cost of the house.
    Except you don't own anything in the game. You've purchased a license that allows you to play the game. Everything within it is owned by SE.

    Quote Originally Posted by chizLemons View Post
    EXACTLY. Now please tell this to people that never even tried having an apartment but think they're entitled to a house they're most likely going to abandon in 2 weeks. I've seen many people don't even try to decorate their own apartments, get a house, struggle with decorating, decide they're not that into it and just abandoning and never using it again - but since auto-demolition is not on, they're just...there.
    It would be no different if demolition was active. We had all those empty houses just sitting there in the past when it was just as much as they currently are.

    The problem is it's a limited resource system. That inflates demand.

    - Players who may not want a house right now but fear not being able to get one in the future if they want one. They buy now if they can so they won't have to worry about trying to get one then.

    - Players who like the presumed prestige of owning something not every player can get.

    - Those who see a profit potential by gaining something they can resell to others who want it (regardless of what ToS might say about such activity).

    The empty houses won't disappear just because demolition is enabled. You're far more likely to see some nicely decorated houses disappear than the empty ones that were purchased for other reasons.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 10-22-2022 at 12:12 PM.