Bring in factions.

[AmpelioB]

Funny, if this MMO in particular has taught me anything, it's the good guy factions that spawn the "intolerant dicks". And, for all FFXIV cultists love to point the finger at WoW for literally everything wrong with the genre factional warfare is one of the least contributing factors to its recent decline. If you're gonna start throwing shade, at least get your facts straight. ESO does factional combat perfectly fine and has a healthy playerbase. WoW's new dual-faction gameplay remains optional, Horde vs. Alliance warfare RP has hardly magickally vanished due to its inclusion. So, in summary frankly this idea isn't the cataclysmic suggestion some seem to labor under the delusion it would be. And, it's not as if FFXIV doesn't have its fair share of toxicity. Let's as a community stop pretending to be morally superior to all other MMOs, shall we?

i'm curious, how ESO does it?

[DPZ2]

i'm curious, how ESO does it?

They squish all PvP into a single dedicated province called Cyrodiil, where the Ruby Throne resides. You can participate starting at level 10. If the three realms (your faction is a realm) are unbalanced it can get a tad hopeless. It was an ... interesting concept, much of it apparently brought from Dark Ages of Camelot Online. At least that's the way it was when I last played it, which, admittedly, has been over half a decade.

[Cleretic]

They squish all PvP into a single dedicated province called Cyrodiil, where the Ruby Throne resides. You can participate starting at level 10. If the three realms (your faction is a realm) are unbalanced it can get a tad hopeless. It was an ... interesting concept, much of it apparently brought from Dark Ages of Camelot Online. At least that's the way it was when I last played it, which, admittedly, has been over half a decade.

Ahh, I recognize that PvP system, TSW had it for one of its PvP modes.

It was a flaming garbage fire. If your faction just wasn't very capable in PvP, either at that time of the day or just in general, it was completely pointless, while if your faction was the type to dominate it was basically just free rewards.

So basically, not too far off from when Frontlines didn't just put you on a completely random side, and if you picked the Flames it was inevitable that you were going to lose.

[SentioftheHoukai]

You people speak as if anybody actually does Frontlines normally outside of grueling through it for the Roulette rewards. It's always funny to see people yell on /alliance chat about how much their team is sucking and why they won't all go the same direction. It's FFXIV PvP, bud. What exactly were you expecting, unit cohesion?! ;3

[AmpelioB]

You people speak as if anybody actually does Frontlines normally outside of grueling through it for the Roulette rewards. It's always funny to see people yell on /alliance chat about how much their team is sucking and why they won't all go the same direction. It's FFXIV PvP, bud. What exactly were you expecting, unit cohesion?! ;3

aren't people doing it for the Garo Mounts too?

[Videra]

You people speak as if anybody actually does Frontlines normally outside of grueling through it for the Roulette rewards. It's always funny to see people yell on /alliance chat about how much their team is sucking and why they won't all go the same direction. It's FFXIV PvP, bud. What exactly were you expecting, unit cohesion?! ;3

I actually enjoyed 24 man frontlines, and the fact SE ripped it out is still a sore point for more. More to the point of this thread, I personally disagree. WoW's factions became a story blackhole that the seeming majority who still play the game, (myself included) loathe. That, and splitting the player base is by default factually dumb.

[kaynide]

Forget factions. Let’s talk official Blue Mage soccer league.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUfZg4Ir3gM

[Striker44]

Funny, if this MMO in particular has taught me anything, it's the good guy factions that spawn the "intolerant dicks". And, for all FFXIV cultists love to point the finger at WoW for literally everything wrong with the genre factional warfare is one of the least contributing factors to its recent decline. If you're gonna start throwing shade, at least get your facts straight. ESO does factional combat perfectly fine and has a healthy playerbase. WoW's new dual-faction gameplay remains optional, Horde vs. Alliance warfare RP has hardly magickally vanished due to its inclusion. So, in summary frankly this idea isn't the cataclysmic suggestion some seem to labor under the delusion it would be. And, it's not as if FFXIV doesn't have its fair share of toxicity. Let's as a community stop pretending to be morally superior to all other MMOs, shall we?

Where in the world did you get any of this? The issue is that FFXIV isn't designed to have factions. To suddenly introduce them would upend the entire core of the game's model, which is highly unlikely to do anything good and most likely to be an absolute disaster. And while factions themselves didn't end WoW (nobody claimed it did), it also can't be denied that there has been a huge imbalance between them for years and the devs themselves have even acknowledged that more is invested in the more populous faction (Horde).

[AmpelioB]

Where in the world did you get any of this? The issue is that FFXIV isn't designed to have factions. To suddenly introduce them would upend the entire core of the game's model, which is highly unlikely to do anything good and most likely to be an absolute disaster. And while factions themselves didn't end WoW (nobody claimed it did), it also can't be denied that there has been a huge imbalance between them for years and the devs themselves have even acknowledged that more is invested in the more populous faction (Horde).

it is not impossible though, a way that I see possible would be the New World which we don't know how much inhabited is, we could have our current factions (Limsa Thanalan Gridania Ala mhigo Doma and Garlemald) trying to explore it since it's rich on ceruleum and other vegetables good and we could choose to ally to any of the nations exploring it, this could also lead to a very interactive story where you could help certain nations to conquer some specific areas of the New World.

[DPZ2]

i this could also lead to a very interactive story where you could help certain nations to conquer some specific areas of the New World.

Just great. The Warrior of Light, savior of two worlds, becomes the Butcher of the New World.

I can't see this happening in this game.