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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aneshda View Post
    1. You cannot sink any lower
    2. Posting names of your victims is against the rules. So I took the liberty of reporting you
    3. You come out as a perv who sneaks into apartments to listen and watch what others are doing?
    4. You should be ashamed, like everyone else here who helped you without questioning your actions, that you can harass other players in their own apartment.
    Aren't you overreacting here?

    1. People can easily sink lower than that.

    2. What victims? There are no crimes being committed.

    3. Those screenshots don't indicate any sneaking was involved. He likely entered the apartments the same way we all have to - by clicking on Yes to the "Enter this room" question.

    We can't even be certain what those other players were doing when he walked in because their dialogues seem to solely be reaction to him.

    4. What harassment? Balmung is known for it's RP as much as it's ERP. He was RPing pizza delivery. He delivered, He left. We don't even know that any of those players in those apartments were the owners of those apartments. There are a fair number of apartments on Balmung that have some variation of "Please feel free to use my apartment if I'm not home" as the greeting.

    5. If you don't ERP in your housing, then there's nothing to worry about if someone walks in when the door is open. Since you do worry, all I can say is keep your door locked when occupied in the future.

    6. I have to question who's more of a pervert - the player who walks into an open apartment with no idea what may be happening inside, or the player who lets their imagination run wild over what might have been happening so they can play morality police in the forums.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Aren't you overreacting here?

    1. People can easily sink lower than that.

    2. What victims? There are no crimes being committed.

    3. Those screenshots don't indicate any sneaking was involved. He likely entered the apartments the same way we all have to - by clicking on Yes to the "Enter this room" question.

    We can't even be certain what those other players were doing when he walked in because their dialogues seem to solely be reaction to him.

    4. What harassment? Balmung is known for it's RP as much as it's ERP. He was RPing pizza delivery. He delivered, He left. We don't even know that any of those players in those apartments were the owners of those apartments. There are a fair number of apartments on Balmung that have some variation of "Please feel free to use my apartment if I'm not home" as the greeting.

    5. If you don't ERP in your housing, then there's nothing to worry about if someone walks in when the door is open. Since you do worry, all I can say is keep your door locked when occupied in the future.

    6. I have to question who's more of a pervert - the player who walks into an open apartment with no idea what may be happening inside, or the player who lets their imagination run wild over what might have been happening so they can play morality police in the forums.
    Congratulations on supporting perverts who go into someone else's apartment knowing that at least the owner is there to harass them.
    All 3 owners asked him to leave but he started discussing what definitely counts as a nuisance.
    To top it off, he then posted chat logs with their names / apartment numbers here, to enjoy his creepy behavior even more.
    And you think this behavior is normal / legitimate just because someone leaves their apartment open so that "friends" can enter the apartment?
    What other people do in their home is their business alone. None has the right to go in and judge what someone does in his own Apartment.
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    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aneshda View Post
    Congratulations on supporting perverts who go into someone else's apartment knowing that at least the owner is there to harass them.
    All 3 owners asked him to leave but he started discussing what definitely counts as a nuisance.
    To top it off, he then posted chat logs with their names / apartment numbers here, to enjoy his creepy behavior even more.
    And you think this behavior is normal / legitimate just because someone leaves their apartment open so that "friends" can enter the apartment?
    What other people do in their home is their business alone. None has the right to go in and judge what someone does in his own Apartment.
    I agree with Jojoya. You're overreacting just a bit.
    1. First off, I'm sure you've been in a house or two that was left unlocked. I know I go into them to see how others decorated their home. If the individuals are so bothered by him being there, don't you think it's up to them to report it?
    2. Second, he mistakenly didn't get all the name filtered. You reported him for it, so move along.
    3. Third, seems he's more of a prankster rather than a perv. So the "holier than thou" speech you preach here, seems a bit unreasonable.
    4. Lastly, calling people pervs is a bit slanderous on your part. You don't know him to be going around calling him out like that. So I suggest to be careful of the name calling.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    I agree with Jojoya. You're overreacting just a bit.
    1. First off, I'm sure you've been in a house or two that was left unlocked. I know I go into them to see how others decorated their home. If the individuals are so bothered by him being there, don't you think it's up to them to report it?
    2. Second, he mistakenly didn't get all the name filtered. You reported him for it, so move along.
    3. Third, seems he's more of a prankster rather than a perv. So the "holier than thou" speech you preach here, seems a bit unreasonable.
    4. Lastly, calling people pervs is a bit slanderous on your part. You don't know him to be going around calling him out like that. So I suggest to be careful of the name calling.
    I go in people’s houses unannounced all the time, sometimes even sleep there. Not my fault they are great at creating comfy environments.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    I agree with Jojoya. You're overreacting just a bit.
    1. First off, I'm sure you've been in a house or two that was left unlocked. I know I go into them to see how others decorated their home. If the individuals are so bothered by him being there, don't you think it's up to them to report it?
    2. Second, he mistakenly didn't get all the name filtered. You reported him for it, so move along.
    3. Third, seems he's more of a prankster rather than a perv. So the "holier than thou" speech you preach here, seems a bit unreasonable.
    4. Lastly, calling people pervs is a bit slanderous on your part. You don't know him to be going around calling him out like that. So I suggest to be careful of the name calling.
    Overreacting? Someone who has a behavior like that in a Game ... does this in Real too. Stalking, creepy behavior is NOT normal.
    Someone who is an ass in Real life is usually also an ass here in game. We all bring Real life behaviors with us into this game, why would we pretend we're completely different here?
    In the end there is a Real Person behind every WoL, who can get hurt by this behavior. You never know what a player has experienced in his life. Some behaviors can trigger ...

    1. I have no reason to go into others Apartments
    3. That't why he opend this Thread to get advices how to harass other Players with his Pizza Delivery Man crap?
    4. I call Him as I see Him. Don't be naive. This behavior is not normal.

    Would you like it if someone would come into your apartment to spy on you and your friend (s) and start to discuss with you, when you tell him to leave?
    Is this behavior normal? Even if it is just a joke in this moment for him, for the others for sure not.
    Since when did SE allowed bored Players to do this? There is a simple rule :

    If you are not invited to an Apartment, then you stay out if the Owner is online and in his Apartment.
    Feel free to look at open Apartments when the Owner is offline or in a different Area. That's what normal Players do.
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    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

  6. #36
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    I mean they made their apartments to public access so it's not wrong for anyone to enter. Also supporting stalker what? They made it public by themselves...

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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aneshda View Post
    If you are not invited to an Apartment, then you stay out if the Owner is online and in his Apartment.
    Feel free to look at open Apartments when the Owner is offline or in a different Area. That's what normal Players do.
    Not really. People walk into houses, apartments and FC rooms all the time, regardless of whether the person is online or not. If you're so against it, lock it, otherwise you'll always be in such a danger of people walking into you doing something you don't want them to see.

    Not to mention, the person called him by name. They likely knew them. And at no point did they tell him to leave in such a rude manner, nor did he overstay his welcome.

    You're virtue signaling. Hard.

    Yeah, it was bad of him to not censor peoples' names entirely, it was a gaffe and he admitted to it. One I unfortunately share. And both of us corrected it, he took the images down, I deleted the post.
    But there's nothing illegal about what he did whatsoever.
    Preach privacy all you want, if you wanted privacy, you should have taken the steps to do so.
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 10-22-2022 at 11:14 AM.

  8. #38
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    Ok ok...everyone calm down. Listen to those defending me thank you but I DO see her point to a certain extent. I just wanted to do something wacky and did not mean for this to blow up into some huge debate. Aneshda I get what you are saying about posting the names (which my mistake. I tried to edit and missed some). However I'm not sure what things are like on your server but Balmung is an RP server. It's also a weird server. Weird things happen...and a guy delivering pizza to the wrong address is just one of many weird occurrences in Balmung.

    Yes what they said was direct and to the point. However it was said IN CHARACTER. One does not RP walk up and draw a weapon if they OOC are offended or making a point. That does not happen. A guy who is a corpse on the ground would get up and be like "dude you need to go" if I was absolutely intruding. I was not stalking. I went in, did my gig, and got out. Each one of these took 30 seconds of time. They would not have accepted my trade if they were offended. Everything was done in character.

    You reported me and what is done is DONE. I'm not mad at you for doing what you think is right. It's all out of our hands now and either nothing happens or I get banned from the forums/game for a time or just forever. What is done is done.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    You know, I'm quite cross with you Renalt. Don't think you get to get out of this thread clean either, 'cause I'm giving you an earpull! >: (

    You never showed us how you looked with the Pizza Man glam :x We didn't get to see it. Plus, you're a Highlander Hyur, chances are it'd look amazing on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    You know, I'm quite cross with you Renalt. Don't think you get to get out of this thread clean either, 'cause I'm giving you an earpull! >: (

    You never showed us how you looked with the Pizza Man glam :x We didn't get to see it. Plus, you're a Highlander Hyur, chances are it'd look amazing on you.
    I just wore my Summer Indigo shirt at it's natural color. I thought about it and figured Renalt is not one for uniforms but being casual would suit him.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

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