Using The paladin exploit in Onsal is indeed cheating

[Mithron]

It doesn't matter what devs say, it was definitely intended and not cheating, just not fun and needed to be uniquely addressed once discovered. Devs can be wrong, too.

[Mandudez]

The first post in the longest standing English thread about it was posted 4 months ago actually :^)

The English bug report was made back in April lol.

[VictorSpoils]

FFXIV where a critical bugfix takes like 2 months

Considering it got flagged as "working as intended" when they changed it anyway, they must have considered it a balance issue instead of a bug.

And if the patch notes are any indication, the PLD squads will still be unkillable since their elixirs are unaffected.

[Cidel]

So based on what the patch notes suggested; to me it highlights one of two things about the ability to exploit Guardian (or both) in such a way:

- The "PvP team"/devs literally could not figure out how to go forward or code the ability to not grant a player near immunity from claiming an ovoo in Frontlines situations while under its effect but still let it function to allow potion use uninterrupted in CC for several months on end...

- PvP is still an afterthought even after it's like, 3rd revamp into relevancy and after trying to be hyped up about keeping it relevant this time. So fixes like these are not of any real priority and should be expected to take months to address after their initial theatrics of timely balance/hotfix patches following CC's implementation.
*To piggy-back off the last point, I also find it equally likely that usage of Guardian in this way was not a prevalent or at least not an ongoing issue across the puddle for JP games, therefore not necessitating immediate action in the dev's eyes.

I'm willing to bet that the latter situation is the more likely cause. No matter how much they try to change their stripes, the devs always let PvP fall to the wayside after one patch revamps and "breathes life" back into it, before they stop updating vendor rewards or token rewards for the entirety of the expansion cycle- into the next. I would like for them to prove me wrong, but this isn't my first rodeo with their PvP behaviors. Aside that, yeah, yeah, good for them for addressing this PLD thing. It only took them this long to do it long after people threw their hands up in exasperation from the radio silence.

[Kyu-Momo]

FFXIV where a critical bugfix takes like 2 months

Better than never.

[Towa-Musa]

Nah i don't care if that stuff was working as intended or not, if you can literally use something in one mode to break balance for something its a exploit, SE just needs to stop being prideful and accept responsibility for their failure. Thankfully now theres no point to this particular thread, lets go bitch about something else now!