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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    Because you can easily counter the DRG LB with guard, having it display as an obvious red colour if it's an enemy one will make the LB completely worthless unless someone else on the team sets them up, such as WAR, DNC, etc. But that's never going to happen because we can't communicate.
    why would it make the LB useless? lmao its a lb you would use in big fights so making the enemy freak out and run or waste their guard is great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    I literally said change the color.
    You also said buff DRG LB. The color circle doesn't need to be changed.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    You also said buff DRG LB. The color circle doesn't need to be changed.
    Nah it does, Knowing the color would save people from unnecessary guard burning and the small buff the LB would get is just a potency tweak. feels pretty weak compared to MCH marksman spite and WHM pergedation.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    Yes lets take 5 seconds to check to see if a LB is friendly or not during a massive brawl, OR they could just change the color
    You completely misread what I said. You get a time frame of 5 whole seconds to see which side popped the LB. A luxury NO OTHER has because they're instacast. It actually takes a quick little glance to see if it's yours or not. Also, the potency buff your proposed change would come with would either be largely irrelevant since people walk away from it/guard or a game changer since you can combo it with stuff like WAR LB for free damage (in an ideal world where that happens consistently lmao)
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    Last edited by Karasio; 10-24-2022 at 10:39 AM.

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    I'm not talking about a 50% buff just a little tweak to make it more in line with the other dps that have a means of cc by the way. But the color more than anything. Give me the classic Blue/friendly Red/enemy situation and I'll be happy as a clam on the lam.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    I'm not talking about a 50% buff just a little tweak to make it more in line with the other dps that have a means of cc by the way. But the color more than anything. Give me the classic Blue/friendly Red/enemy situation and I'll be happy as a clam on the lam.
    Raw damage wise, dragoon's LB is considerably stronger than other DPS. But that comes with having no retarded gimmicks and having counterplay of any kind.
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    I don't follow your logic; can you say you have seen a ninja or machinist limit break coming prior to watching yourself ragdoll? Can you guard ninja or samurai? The gimmick is timing if you ask me. I don't think it needs to be holy Thal's balls boosted just a little nudge and just because it's a pure damage job. The color thing is more for both teams though.
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    I don't follow your logic; can you say you have seen a ninja or machinist limit break coming prior to watching yourself ragdoll? Can you guard ninja or samurai? The gimmick is timing if you ask me. I don't think it needs to be holy Thal's balls boosted just a little nudge and just because it's a pure damage job. The color thing is more for both teams though.
    You're saying what I was getting at. Other LBs are just retarded in that they're instacast with no room for counterplay. DRG's has two avenues of not taking damage from it. I've personally never had any issues with discerning which dragoon is using their LB. Mostly because I am the dragoon on my team lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    Nah it does, Knowing the color would save people from unnecessary guard burning and the small buff the LB would get is just a potency tweak. feels pretty weak compared to MCH marksman spite and WHM pergedation.
    Boosting the potency is worthless when you stick a billboard on it screaming "GUARD NOW".
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    Boosting the potency is worthless when you stick a billboard on it screaming "GUARD NOW".
    And then you'd have people complaining how "DRG LB IS TOO STRONG NERF NOWWWWWW" when they get chain LB'd in frontlines.

    It doesn't need any changes. Leave dragoon alone already.
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