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  1. #91
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    Towa-Musa's Avatar
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    Towa Musa
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    maybe you're right, maybe i should perhaps get a life and quit being a PoS that thinks hes not some faceless nobody on the forums, maybe i should get a life.
    Yeah you should
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  2. #92
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    Elfidan Gadfor
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Karasio View Post
    Dragoon is the best balanced job in the current iteration of PvP, and should be used as a base for the rest of the roster's balancing.
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  3. #93
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    He's not wrong. DRG is the most well designed of the jobs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    Yeah you should
    You poor thing.
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  4. #94
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    Elfidan's Avatar
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    Elfidan Gadfor
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    What a joke. Go back to white knighting for bard silence.
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  5. #95
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    Towa Musa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    He's wrong. DRG is not the most well designed of the jobs.



    You're amazing.
    Lol i know im amazing thanks.
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  6. #96
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    Karasio's Avatar
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    Silver Faye
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    Louisoix
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    These people man. Instead of throwing insults back and forth over meaningless shit and e-peen measuring, harass the guy who admitted to exploiting PLD in Onsal or something. Put your energy towards something productive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    Are you going to bring up any points as to why I'm wrong or something..? Or is this going to be another shit slinging contest or something? I just want to see meaningful change to the system because it has potential that's being squandered by bimonthly updates.
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  7. #97
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    Agnes Nimue
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Yes I understand the netcode is sh!t, yes I understand that ping and latency exist, yes I understand certain actions go through Guard but from an optics perspective seeing

    +Guard

    followed by

    12500!
    8000!
    Dead

    Is simply extremely demoralizing.
    What really gets me is when I press Guard and it doesn't pop immediately due to CC or button queue, so I press it again and Guard gets toggled off. Absolute worse. Sometimes I wish it had a 1s recast for mash protection.
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  8. #98
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    Towa Musa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    You're bait is amazing, do you fish?


    care to explain how you do it?
    yes, i fish with only the best tools.
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  9. #99
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    Bureda Ghodhand
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    Phoenix
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Yes I understand the netcode is sh!t, yes I understand that ping and latency exist, yes I understand certain actions go through Guard but from an optics perspective seeing

    +Guard

    followed by

    12500!
    8000!
    Dead

    Is simply extremely demoralizing.
    Just to educate a little bit. It's not just netcode.
    For example if we use a job like RDM with 3 dots. If those dots land before you pop your Guard then whilst you're using Guard they will continue to do full damage for the whole duration of Guard. This is true for all DoTs they hold high priority and do not get negated so most regular PvPers will use that to apply pressure that way. Square already have the ability to negate immediate damage with current code. For example the PLD Cover affects any damage as soon as the effect is introduced.
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  10. #100
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    Elfidan Gadfor
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Karasio View Post
    Are you going to bring up any points as to why I'm wrong or something..? Or is this going to be another shit slinging contest or something? I just want to see meaningful change to the system because it has potential that's being squandered by bimonthly updates.
    "I want all LBs to have meaningful counterplay. Also, funny you call dragoon LB useless and stupid easy to counter while you keep advocating to make it even easier to counter while making it hit harder when it's useless. Make up your mind. Dragoon is the best balanced job in the current iteration of PvP, and should be used as a base for the rest of the roster's balancing."

    What point here has anything to do with the fact that DRG is poorly balanced. It started stronger than the other melee because it has no CC and guess what it's been nerfed, but it still has no CC. What is balance in a game where they are trying to jam jobs into roles without role lock? Shit slinging contest? You made me laugh.

    How do we reach meaningful counterplay in a world where half the jobs have instant and powerful limit breaks while others have to sit in animation completely vulnerable to getting wrecked? How do you reach that with a company that digs their heels and doubles down on every terrible design choice they make. Did you know DRG animation lock death was a thing in pve for 10 fucking years? I feel like you guys think that a set rotation in pvp equals balanced, and I find that hilarious.
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