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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I'm perfectly fine with the caps and the lockouts. My only problem is there is no system to ease up gearing your other jobs. You basically have to focus on your main. In other MMOs I'd pug run on my alts after clearing on my main with my group and I always had something to do week because of that.

    I'm not sure how they would go about it in this game, but I'd play a lot more if I could play all week gearing all the other jobs I like to play.
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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I still say let leave the tome as is, but change the system. Let us just unlock slots with the capped tome and buy the gear with the uncapped tome... that way we can gear other jobs with some effort and still dont have cap level week one...
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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Something people seem to be overlooking is the fact that loosening or eliminating the cap makes crafted gear useless. Tome gear is nice to help you get wins but people have already cleared with a bare minimum, so it's really just there to help things go faster. BiS will end up being a combo of items, so the problem seems to be exaggerated here.
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Something people seem to be overlooking is the fact that loosening or eliminating the cap makes crafted gear useless. Tome gear is nice to help you get wins but people have already cleared with a bare minimum, so it's really just there to help things go faster. BiS will end up being a combo of items, so the problem seems to be exaggerated here.
    Crafted gear still holds a valuable role in creating entry into Savage. Allowing the limitations on tomestone and raid gear to loosen over time will not invalidate that.

    It's not really an exaggerated issue. The limitations as they stand fail to address the ever increasing list of jobs available to the player and do not at all compliment an RPG where changing jobs and gear is meant to be encouraged.
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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Crafted gear still holds a valuable role in creating entry into Savage. Allowing the limitations on tomestone and raid gear to loosen over time will not invalidate that.

    It's not really an exaggerated issue. The limitations as they stand fail to address the ever increasing list of jobs available to the player and do not at all compliment an RPG where changing jobs and gear is meant to be encouraged.
    If people can get tome gear any faster, it absolutely invalidates crafted gear in the long term, especially when upgrading becomes an option. Taking the extreme of having no cap on tomes, you have no reason to even consider crafting at the start of a new raid cycle.
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    If people can get tome gear any faster, it absolutely invalidates crafted gear in the long term, especially when upgrading becomes an option. Taking the extreme of having no cap on tomes, you have no reason to even consider crafting at the start of a new raid cycle.
    "Invalidate" implies that crafted gear serves no purpose when that is absolutely untrue. Again, you have the entire beginning of savage in which people race to gear up for week 1 clears. Then even if you do have a faster way to gain resources, you would still likely gear up additional jobs when possible. And I didn't say there should be no tomestone cap immediately. This was my suggestion earlier:

    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Tomestone Adjustment:
    - The new tomestone currency is released during the even-numbered patch with a cap of 450.
    - After 4 weeks, the cap is increased to 600
    - After 2 more weeks, the cap is increased to 800
    - The cap is removed at the launch of the odd-numbered patch.

    Savage Book Adjustment:
    - Tier 1 Books - Accessories - 4 Books are required for your first purchase. All other purchases require 2 Books.
    - Tier 2 Books - Hat/Hands/Feet/Coating - 4 Books are required for your first purchase. All other purchases require 2 Books.
    - Tier 3 Books - Pants/Coating/Twine - 6 Books are required for your first purchase. 4 Books are required for your second purchase. All other purchases require 2 Books.
    - Tier 4 Books - Weapon/Torso - 6 Books are required for your first purchase. 4 Books are required for your second purchase. All other purchases require 2 Books.
    You would still have an early bar of entry, it would just decrease over time allowing you to gear up multiple jobs much faster while still asking for an entry amount of effort. Explain to me how this system would invalidate crafted gear.
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    Cesan Duff
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    rather than increase the limit, I'd rather they have earned tome for the next week.
    Like, you can farm 900 tomes this week, but you only get access to 450 more next week after reset.
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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Let me know when you decide to address the whole situation rather than just focusing on savage.
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 100
    I don't want 900 caps. I would sooner everything costs 2/3 of its current amount. That would allow for quicker gearing.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

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