Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
So we had it years ago, it worked, people liked it...and this is an argument against it...why?
To clear up this confusion - no. We already argued why we want all healers to be changed back in Shadowbringers.


No, your interpretation of my definition is that simple = shallow. That isn't my definition of simple.
Two main dps options on a class in an MMORPG is objectively shallow. You can like it, but it is a shallow DPS kit.

Again, as before, you want me to argue a point I haven't made. When have I argued simple cannot have depth? The dispute here is that I feel they already have depth and you do not.
Once again 2 main buttons is not depth. It is objectively not depth. I'm not talking about the healing kit (which arguably has no depth or nuance to it either). WAR's Fell Cleave also have 0 depth as far as I'm concerned btw. You can argue WHM's dps kit has depth when a Glare proc's a Dia like BLM's DoT can proct itself.



Because (a) that wouldn't allow it to be an entry healer (or any of them) and (b) because the role is healer. The depth should really be in the healing kits, not the DPS kits for the healer role.
The first part of this makes 0 sense. If the class progresses correctly (which, I'll admit is extremely hard for SE to do considering Affalus Misery and the whole lilly gauge has yet to be properly moved) you would gain a dps skill in early enough levels to actually use it as a part of your rotation same as a melee dps 1-2-3.

The second half I agree with but SE doesn't want to. Point is moot. If they aren't going to make the healing kits actually take skill to use, then the dps kit needs to change, which is what we've been arguing.



Here's the problem with this argument - you're spamming one dps button. In a normal fight, you're pressing a lot of buttons that aren't Glare/Broil/Malific/Dosis. The thing is, they're oGCDs.
I wasn't talking about a normal fight. I said SOLO CONTENT.

Where you thought I was talking about a normal fight was when I said midcore to veteran healers play as if they are in a solo fight because the healing kit isn't being used. You can prune healing kits, they SHOULD be pruned, and the class would play the same at the high level.