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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Towns A and B are broke. They've recently been giving the opportunity, no string attached, to not be.
    Town A and Town B are not broke.

    They also have been given no opportunity to change. Town A simply thinks there's an implied opportunity where none has been made. BUT, Towns A and B are both rural towns.

    Town A wants to be more cosmopolitan and Town B wants to be remain as rural as it is today.

    You want to force them to both be more cosmopolitan, regardless of the will of the local people, while I suggest allowing each to be what they want at the same time.

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    Viewpoint A wants to see each healer made more complex because that is what they like.

    Viewpoint B would like to see each healer stay simple because that is what they like, but as a compromise, they suggest giving Viewpoint A 3/4ths of them so Viewpoint A will be happy.

    Viewpoint A insists they will not be happy unless they get them all, and Viewpoint B can either accepted it and change or can go pound sand, and either way, Viewpoint A will not be happy unless it gets everything it wants and Viewpoint B gets nothing it wants.

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    Maybe if you actually had accurate allegories, it might help your understanding of the situation.
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    Last edited by Renathras; 01-12-2023 at 07:18 PM. Reason: EDIT for space

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Viewpoint A wants to see each healer made more complex because that is what they like.

    Viewpoint B would like to see each healer stay simple because that is what they like, but as a compromise, they suggest giving Viewpoint A 3/4ths of them so Viewpoint A will be happy.

    Viewpoint A insists they will not be happy unless they get them all, and Viewpoint B can either accepted it and change or can go pound sand, and either way, Viewpoint A will not be happy unless it gets everything it wants and Viewpoint B gets nothing it wants.
    Say SE does as you say and changes only SGE, AST and SCH to have 2 more dps buttons. WHMs who want higher depth will complain and rightfully so. For simple fact if:

    AST who has more to juggle can also have 2 extra dps options then WHM who does not can as well because it is simple.

    On top of SGE who is the direct shield comparison to WHM can also have 2 extra dps buttons despite also being as simple as WHM.

    Once again - all tanks have a 1-2-3 combo on top of what makes them different: their extra dps. Just because WAR is more simple than GNB doesn't mean WAR doesn't have it. If tank can have that, healers can have a similar build.

    To make a comparison, you're literally saying that since WAR is to be the simple tank if it had lost Fell Cleave in Shb, and all the other tanks had extra burst, it shouldn't get it because it's to be the only tank with a 1-2-3 combo. No tank would agree to that. They'd want WAR to get it.

    And YES WHM lost Areo 3 and since it is a separate DoT on its own timer and CD you would be expected to use it and Dia in savage. You're arguing against getting it back and another button all because you believe people shouldn't have to adapt their class and stay with all that they knew for an expansion and never grow.

    They're gonna relearn how to play their class in 7.0 anyway. I don't see the problem.

    Especially considering that both old and new players adapted to SB -> Shb changes of AST and Shb -> EW's changes the latter of which I did.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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