The Problem with Healer Feedback, and requested changes

[Hazama999]

I am actually very surprised there is still some healer talk on these forums. It feels like everyone has said their piece and/or made their peace with regards to current healer design. Most of what I read feels all-too-familiar, retreads old ground. This isn't to say these arguments hold no water or anything. I agree with most of them, actually. It's just that... Idk... Feels like we've gone beyond beating a dead horse and are just gunning for striking the bedrock.

At the same time, I do recognize that there is a need for the continuing feedback. I am far, far, far too tired to crank out my grievances with the role in excruciating detail, but I commend those who do.

[Nizzi]

I am actually very surprised there is still some healer talk on these forums. It feels like everyone has said their piece and/or made their peace with regards to current healer design. Most of what I read feels all-too-familiar, retreads old ground. This isn't to say these arguments hold no water or anything. I agree with most of them, actually. It's just that... Idk... Feels like we've gone beyond beating a dead horse and are just gunning for striking the bedrock.

At the same time, I do recognize that there is a need for the continuing feedback. I am far, far, far too tired to crank out my grievances with the role in excruciating detail, but I commend those who do.

For what it's worth, from Yoshida's recent responses to the two healer questions in the live letter, it seems clear that he's frustrated of hearing the same thing over and over too, which is why I think it's even more important to keep striking the bedrock. I hope people with the same grievances go to all three FanFests that are coming up and keep pushing. Make the developers unable to keep ignoring us.

[Hazama999]

100% agree with that.

[Liam_Harper]

For what it's worth, from Yoshida's recent responses to the two healer questions in the live letter, it seems clear that he's frustrated of hearing the same thing over and over too, which is why I think it's even more important to keep striking the bedrock.

He seems frustrated in general lately, which is a rather bad sign.

WoW went the same way. Developers ignoring feedback for years with a "we know best attitude". It falls apart and finally they turn to the players and go "Fine! What do you want then!?". At that stage the damage is already done, veterans gave up ages ago, half the players are used to the new systems, half are still trying to push feedback and all they get is a jumbled mess of conflicting ideas. The developers, their own bad ideas having fallen flat are now relying on the players to tell them what to do, but the players can't anymore and shouldn't have to. The developers just see a "whiny" playerbase who are never happy no matter how much they try to please them and become resentful. Eventually there's a Devs vs Players dynamic and both sides resent the other.

I feel like that's the path we're going down. We can't fix their mess for them or make their game. They need to realize they've done a lot of damage, set expectations and ingrained bad habits into players with their design over the years and it will take time and effort to undo it.