Please make Verraise accessible at level 12

[Rithy255]

Red Mage identity is "Spellblade melee Caster hybrid", not Rez Dispenser. If you think being a Rez Dispenser is an identity, let alone one you want, I urge you to play healer.

White mana = Healing aspects, no your job identity is half healer. Even if you wanna make up rdm job identity, it makes sense the job that its meant to use both "white mana" and "black mana" would turn into a "support" job, obviously ff14 doesn't really allow for "support jobs" because any deviation from the norm in job design must be removed from the game. (from a lot of high end players, because they want efficiency over identity/fun, mind you not every high end player).

Again "just play healer lol" when healers are boring and its a way to "avoid" discussing the use cases of RDM, it's current design isn't meant to be black mage with melee phase it's a support hybird, It's not a reason why you would balance a job because identity shouldn't always play a part in balance, so you can remove raise anyway.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

White mana = Healing aspects, no your job identity is half healer. Even if you wanna make up rdm job identity, it makes sense the job that its meant to use both "white mana" and "black mana" would turn into a "support" job, obviously ff14 doesn't really allow for "support jobs" because any deviation from the norm in job design must be removed from the game. (from a lot of high end players, because they want efficiency over identity/fun, mind you not every high end player).

Again "just play healer lol" when healers are boring and its a way to "avoid" discussing the use cases of RDM, it's current design isn't meant to be black mage with melee phase it's a support hybird, It's not a reason why you would balance a job because identity shouldn't always play a part in balance, so you can remove raise anyway.

Putting aside that in various FF titles White Magic was not exclusively healing / raising / defensives but also contained offensive and debilitating magic, something FFXIV put in the forefront by making Stone, Aero, Water and Holy used by White Mages more than Black Mages, it should appear as obvious that "Black Magic" and "White Magic" are both highly offensive magic schools. What do you think the Amdapori White Mages uses in the War of the Magi against the Black Mages of Mhach, f-ing Cure III and Raise?

White Mana is generated by spells originating from the school of White Magic.
Black Mana is generated by spells originating from the school of Black Magic.

The identity of a Red Mage is using Acceleration on both magic schools or unique magic (Jolt, Scatter, Impact, Scorch) to enhance a limited amount of aether (by nature of how their magic works in lore they have to do so), with remaining residual mana being stored in their Rapier + Focus, which is THEN used for your infamous melee combo. The fact Red Mage just happens to have minor healing / defensive tools is just a small part of it.

Red Mage is a Caster utilising modified versions of White & Black Magic + a melee weapon for Spellblade combos.

Yes, our dear community happens to identify Red Mage with Rez Dispenser, something we have lamented for a while now. I'd love if they stopped doing that.

[Rithy255]

Putting aside that in various FF titles White Magic was not exclusively healing / raising / defensives but also contained offensive and debilitating magic, something FFXIV put in the forefront by making Stone, Aero, Water and Holy used by White Mages more than Black Mages, it should appear as obvious that "Black Magic" and "White Magic" are both highly offensive magic schools. What do you think the Amdapori White Mages uses in the War of the Magi against the Black Mages of Mhach, f-ing Cure III and Raise?

White Mana is generated by spells originating from the school of White Magic.
Black Mana is generated by spells originating from the school of Black Magic.

The identity of a Red Mage is using Acceleration on both magic schools or unique magic (Jolt, Scatter, Impact, Scorch) to enhance a limited amount of aether (by nature of how their magic works in lore they have to do so), with remaining residual mana being stored in their Rapier + Focus, which is THEN used for your infamous melee combo. The fact Red Mage just happens to have minor healing / defensive tools is just a small part of it.

Red Mage is a Caster utilising modified versions of White & Black Magic + a melee weapon for Spellblade combos.

Yes, our dear community happens to identify Red Mage with Rez Dispenser, something we have lamented for a while now. I'd love if they stopped doing that.

Raise makes sense from a job identity standpoint, "rez dispenser" isn't it's identity fully but it makes sense why the "half white mage" would have a battle raise honestly I don't know why now people are trying to argue that Rdm identity shouldn't have a raise, I dont even think raise is balanced right now it means RDM has to be behind BLM, why are we balancing and talking about identity

[AmiableApkallu]

Raise makes sense from a job identity standpoint, "rez dispenser" isn't it's identity fully but it makes sense why the "half white mage" would have a battle raise honestly I don't know why now people are trying to argue that Rdm identity shouldn't have a raise, I dont even think raise is balanced right now it means RDM has to be behind BLM, why are we balancing and talking about identity

The reality is that RDM is slotted as a DPS job in FFXIV. From both a RDM-job-identity standpoint and from a DPS-job standpoint, it makes no sense for RDM to have a better Raise spell than the actual healers.

RDM can have Verraise. It can even have it at Lv.12 or whatever. But Dualcast-Verraise should not be a thing.

[Rithy255]

The reality is that RDM is slotted as a DPS job in FFXIV. From both a RDM-job-identity standpoint and from a DPS-job standpoint, it makes no sense for RDM to have a better Raise spell than the actual healers.

RDM can have Verraise. It can even have it at Lv.12 or whatever. But Dualcast-Verraise should not be a thing.

Even if it's a "dps" it still has raise/vercure it's already apart of it's identity.
Being better then healers at it? I mean sure you can nerf it i guess, I never said verraise was perfectly balanced (it's clearly not), but people acting like RDM having raise makes no sense from job identity is the issue i have with the statement.