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    Kalaam's Avatar
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    You can bring BLM because you enjoy it.
    As long as the overall utility (making it possible for the group to clear) is comparable, you can play the one you enjoy the most (and likely perform the best as) without feeling like griefing your team. It's that simple.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    You can bring BLM because you enjoy it.
    As long as the overall utility (making it possible for the group to clear) is comparable, you can play the one you enjoy the most (and likely perform the best as) without feeling like griefing your team. It's that simple.
    You must be new to MMO's...
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    Why do people want to compete with team-mates so much, that's so dumb.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Red Mage should not get Vercure and Verraise earlier. FFXIV RDMs are not backup healers; they are not a "hybrid" job; they are not there to drop DPS to do someone else's job; they are not a safety net for people who want to take extra risks because there's an extra raiser. Classic FF RDMs may have been these things, but this is FFXIV and FFXIV RDM's job is to kill things.

    Vercure is an on-demand downtime Swiftcast and solo tool (even then, just kill it faster in most cases). Verraise is for when the healers have already blown their Swiftcasts or absolutely cannot stop to raise people because there's too much unavoidable incoming damage at that time. If you give people these tools early, both RDMs and non RDMs will think FFXIV RDM is one of those things I have said they are not. There are already people who wrongly believe FFXIV RDM is one or more of those things--we need to disabuse them of this notion rather than encouraging more people to come to these bad conclusions.
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    Player Mithron's Avatar
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    Mithron Scarlet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Red Mage should not get Vercure and Verraise earlier. FFXIV RDMs are not backup healers; they are not a "hybrid" job; they are not there to drop DPS to do someone else's job; they are not a safety net for people who want to take extra risks because there's an extra raiser. Classic FF RDMs may have been these things, but this is FFXIV and FFXIV RDM's job is to kill things.

    Vercure is an on-demand downtime Swiftcast and solo tool (even then, just kill it faster in most cases). Verraise is for when the healers have already blown their Swiftcasts or absolutely cannot stop to raise people because there's too much unavoidable incoming damage at that time. If you give people these tools early, both RDMs and non RDMs will think FFXIV RDM is one of those things I have said they are not. There are already people who wrongly believe FFXIV RDM is one or more of those things--we need to disabuse them of this notion rather than encouraging more people to come to these bad conclusions.
    Vercure and Verraise are already DPS losses because they're not only wasting a GCD with no potency, but also not generating mana. So they're not "back up," but rather "emergency saves" and come with a cost. I don't think giving these tools early to players will do any detriment because by the time they're doing end game content that matters (Savage, Ultimate) they'll definitely have learned what RDM's role is.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Angel Whisper at lvl 1 go brrrr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Angel Whisper at lvl 1 go brrrr.
    Angel Whisper is irrelevant. Blue Mage is a limited job that does not do normal content with normal party compositions. And unlike RDM, blue mages are healers or hybrids, when they are designated to act in such capacity in their all-Blue Mage parties.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Angel Whisper is irrelevant. Blue Mage is a limited job that does not do normal content with normal party compositions. And unlike RDM, blue mages are healers or hybrids, when they are designated to act in such capacity in their all-Blue Mage parties.
    Your salt is delicious. *Flying Sardine*
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    Firemage Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Your salt is delicious. *Flying Sardine*
    There was no salt, you were trolling and strawmanning. Once a QR always a QR
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    There was no salt, you were trolling and strawmanning. Once a QR always a QR
    You are projecting again Firemage. Where I bring garlic you only bring six flavors of pepper.
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