Yoshi-P "definitive" answer on third party tools from today's 14 hour stream

[Saraide]

So I don't think I'll be able to step into this issue anymore and I think we had enough debates about this already

I felt that sentence in my soul.

[Jojoya]

Client to client tomfoolery is possible as long as there's a mod on the targeted client and the attacker has a program that can interact with that mod. The mod don't necessarily have to be specifically for FFXIV.

That's why SE warns players that use of mods is at your own risk. They are not responsible if you suffer any loss due to use of mods, whether in game or in real life.

Back to the general topic, it comes down to common sense. They're against ToS partly to protect SE in situations like above and partly to give them a tool to use against those using mods to gain an unfair game advantage.

If you're using a mod for accessibility reasons (like vision impairment), they're not going to come after you. If you're using a mod to change how the UI displays (as long as that change does not include information that doesn't appear as part of the default UI), they're not likely to come after you. If you using a mod to alter display colors or glamours, they're not going to come after you (as long is it's not altering to display pornographic or other questionable images/sounds).

They're interested in focusing the time of their support staff that investigates violations on more important things such as account hacks and mods that give legitimate unfair game advantage. They don't want to be wasting time on petty revenge reports or self-appointed ToS police officers.

Use common sense. Mods can enhance the game experience but the game doesn't need mods for it be playable. Otherwise there would be no console support. Ask yourself if you really need to have that mod - then accept the consequences for choosing to use it.

When it comes to use of mods to harass players, we've already got policies regarding player harassment. Such harassment alone is enough for SE to decide to ban a player. Mods being involved doesn't change much of anything.

[Axious]

Would removing the PC/Mac usability and forcing the game to be 100% console (Ps4, Ps5 and possibly xbox)
remove 3rd party add ons or are they inevitable?

[Ivtrix]

Would removing the PC/Mac usability and forcing the game to be 100% console (Ps4, Ps5 and possibly xbox)
remove 3rd party add ons or are they inevitable?

No, there are ways to inject XIVAlexander into your rounter so that it works on playstation.

So yes, believe it or not, there are ways to mod on playstation.

[Floortank]

In other words, if you need a parser to develop and balance a raid, that means something is missing from the simple experience of playing it with only your available senses and visual/audio clues, that requires a parser for balance. If you can't build and balance the game on how it plays but need a parser to guide gameplay to a specific conclusion, players are going to need a similar tool to recreate that conclusion. It's really obvious.

[Tiramu]

In other words, if you need a parser to develop and balance a raid, that means something is missing from the simple experience of playing it with only your available senses and visual/audio clues, that requires a parser for balance. If you can't build and balance the game on how it plays but need a parser to guide gameplay to a specific conclusion, players are going to need a similar tool to recreate that conclusion. It's really obvious.

Thats not true, game development involves more analysis than any player would ever need, or know what to do with.

[VelKallor]

Because they don't want to add damage meters because it would hurt all the casuals feelings

No.

If it can be abused, misused, used as a weapon to berate and harass others..it will be.

Thats why.

[Saraide]

No.

If it can be abused, misused, used as a weapon to berate and harass others..it will be.

Thats why.

This is a problem of harrasment, not one of third party systems. You dont need parsers at all to see if someone is playing their job badly.

[SaberMaxwell]

No.

If it can be abused, misused, used as a weapon to berate and harass others..it will be.

Thats why.

Problem with this logic is anything can be misused, abused, or used as a weapon to berate and harass others. Thus, even hosting the game is giving players a tool to harass others with.

There's clearly a line drawn somewhere that means even that oddball stance you just stated isn't what SE support.

[FireMage]

No.

If it can be abused, misused, used as a weapon to berate and harass others..it will be.

Thats why.

Guess it's time to delete the aggro table and damage numbers too. Your statement was stupid, full stop