Yoshi-P "definitive" answer on third party tools from today's 14 hour stream

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Also there's a way to section what logs you upload so you don't just do bulk. Makes it way easier so you don't just upload random people's parses.

Far too often I had somebody in my previous static who would upload -everything- they have on that log file which include something as trivial as striking dummy at FC estate after our raid session. Wouldn't be surprised if somebody else being lazy enough to not trim what they want to upload.

[Saraide]

You'd be surprised, I've actually ran into a handful in dungeons over my two+ years and they proceed to get ripped to shreds by the other people in the party and kicked. It's really mindblowing that some think that it's okay.

Also there's a way to section what logs you upload so you don't just do bulk. Makes it way easier so you don't just upload random people's parses.

That's interesting but I doubt everyone having ACT open cares about that. There is still no indication as to why you would assume firemage logged those runs of the person he responded to. Even his own aglaia runs were all uploaded by different people.

[SaberMaxwell]

You'd be surprised, I've actually ran into a handful in dungeons over my two+ years and they proceed to get ripped to shreds by the other people in the party and kicked. It's really mindblowing that some think that it's okay.

Also there's a way to section what logs you upload so you don't just do bulk. Makes it way easier so you don't just upload random people's parses.

To the first point: a handful of...dungeon parsers? Like publicly admitted, stating it in duty "I'm parsing you" type dungeon parsers? I don't understand quite what you mean here but if thats the case they're not very bright; you don't speedrun a dungeon in df, you preform.

Also why are you problem solving for them, they probably already know you can section the reports off on upload they're just explaining how some of this ends up on fflogs. To say nothing of just idly forgetting a live log is running. I'd argue the added steps don't make anything easier at all though it does prevent random people getting uploaded.

[Ivtrix]

oop he linked a xivanalysis log ima go get some popcorn this morning gonna be spicy

[Absimiliard]

To the first point: a handful of...dungeon parsers? Like publicly admitted, stating it in duty "I'm parsing you" type dungeon parsers? I don't understand quite what you mean here but if thats the case they're not very bright; you don't speedrun a dungeon in df, you preform.

It's rare, but there are genuinely people that stupid. They typically don't last long, though. The grey area stops being a grey area when you're dumb enough to announce it.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

oop he linked a xivanalysis log ima go get some popcorn this morning gonna be spicy

I got one bucket, too! <3

[SaberMaxwell]

It's rare, but there are genuinely people that stupid. They typically don't last long, though. The grey area stops being a grey area when you're dumb enough to announce it.

Not saying they don't exist. Just saying they're not very bright at all, even if the intent is benign. Fflogs dungeon rankings don't separate based on composition, so dfs that are saddled with healers are kind of out of the running from the very start.

[Saraide]

oop he linked a xivanalysis log ima go get some popcorn this morning gonna be spicy

Hey there can come something good from it aswell, if more people who want to improve themselves but dont quite know how happen across that website that's a good thing. I find it very practical as a basis to try to improve from.

[LianaThorne]

That's interesting but I doubt everyone having ACT open cares about that. There is still no indication as to why you would assume firemage logged those runs of the person he responded to. Even his own aglaia runs were all uploaded by different people.

I took it by his own words of knowing the color of the SCH. Like I said, if it wasn't him parsing then he should explain that and I'll gladly apologize for misreading his own words.

Sorry I didn't bother to read every single other page for context lol.

[LianaThorne]

The average player could conceivably get out-DPSed by an Archer.



Nah. The context is just a few pages back now. They disagreed with a person's point and brought their parses into it in an attempt to shut them down. The implication is pretty clearly that they went to that website to acquire the information, not that they parsed it themselves. Though, I'll grant you they did then proceed to defend the practice of parsing Alliance raids -- even claiming logs from in there to be a valid gauge of a person's skill at the game -- tooth and nail when called out.

Thank you for providing the context.

So I was half right anyway.

Apologies Fire for assuming you parsed that particular SCH but still weird to parse in alliance raids/defend it.