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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    Where did you see that the missing legions are laying claim to regions? The only thing we heard for sure is that all former Garlean regions are in open revolt with fighting being most intense in Corvos. There's not much to say in my opinion, those regions will free themselves or be freed off screen if we ever do go to these places it will be after they are free and hopefully dealing with problems or issues that don't have anything to do with the Garleans other than "We let some Garleans live here instead of kicking them back up north."
    The latest Tales from the Shadows mentioned that there were rumors of the occupied provinces pushing for independence while simultaneously not making any moves towards reviving the empire, which suggests they are still under the jurisdiction of the Garlean legions.

    It feels unlikely any of those regions are going to just free themselves considering what it took to get Werlyt and Corvos out of Garlean hands, though that may not even be necessary at this point. I could totally see them just deciding that maybe it's better to not govern in an oppressive manner that promotes uprisings and attracts the ire of the Eorzean alliance and the free provinces they're allied with now that the legions stand totally divided.
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    I don't know why those who hate the writing are so fixated on the "newfound adventure" that was the name for ONE patch (6.1) only. Every patch has a different name... that has been a thing since 2.1...so any "failure" is on your own part for being so fixated on a throwaway patch name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazemon15 View Post
    I don't know why those who hate the writing are so fixated on the "newfound adventure" that was the name for ONE patch (6.1) only. Every patch has a different name... that has been a thing since 2.1...so any "failure" is on your own part for being so fixated on a throwaway patch name.
    Are you serious? Was expecting a patch to live up to its namesake too much? This argument really caught my attention. Because it shows that those who defend the current state of affairs have run out of any defensible means to argue in favor the game's recent writing. Unfortunately a recent interview has since confirmed that until 7.0, that the patches will continue to be written relay-style by different writers.

    While 6.2 was tolerable, there is a decent chance that at any moment we might see the torch passed to another junior writer in the style of 6.1, whose issues need no repeating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Are you serious? Was expecting a patch to live up to its namesake too much? This argument really caught my attention. Because it shows that those who defend the current state of affairs have run out of any defensible means to argue in favor the game's recent writing. Unfortunately a recent interview has since confirmed that until 7.0, that the patches will continue to be written relay-style by different writers.

    While 6.2 was tolerable, there is a decent chance that at any moment we might see the torch passed to another junior writer in the style of 6.1, whose issues need no repeating.
    A patch name is equivalent to an episode title. It's just to glitz up the patch and give a little bit of what it's about, not making it is "entire story". Only you and a few vocal minorities have this "story" issue. Yet you act like you speak for the entire playerbase, which isn't the case.

    Tbh, I'm very happy that none of the writers see this or take any story "critique" from people like yourself. Continue to scream into the void all you want about how "bad" the story is. I will continue to sit back and take comfort in knowing that the story will never go the way you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazemon15 View Post
    A patch name is equivalent to an episode title. It's just to glitz up the patch and give a little bit of what it's about, not making it is "entire story". Only you and a few vocal minorities have this "story" issue. Yet you act like you speak for the entire playerbase, which isn't the case.

    Tbh, I'm very happy that none of the writers see this or take any story "critique" from people like yourself. Continue to scream into the void all you want about how "bad" the story is. I will continue to sit back and take comfort in knowing that the story will never go the way you want.
    So toxic. It's really embarrassing whenever I see something like this in any fandom.

    And it's kinda funny, I thought shill knights would listen to Yoshi-p words, but apparently not, considering the man himself hype "newfound adventure" so much that EW delay is due to him wanting emet to become his mouthpiece. But nooo.. It's the player's fault for expecting that to happen.

    The game could've easily introduced minor npc to go on a light adventure with us, but here have the scions instead, even though just a patch ago they said they're "disbanding" to go incognito.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    The game could've easily introduced minor npc to go on a light adventure with us, but here have the scions instead, even though just a patch ago they said they're "disbanding" to go incognito.
    "Disbanding" in quote marks, as an official organisation. They're still our friends and they're allowed to still hang out with us as individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai View Post
    "Blah, blah, blah don't like my game, leave so I can enjoy it without you annoying me, blah, blah."

    Yeah, TOTALLY not the toxic one when your rationale boils down to basically "STFU and GTFO" with a larger word-count.
    If that's the case, what he says boils down to "Blah blah blah, you're wrong and I'm right, that's a fact" is just as toxic, but I don't see anyone saying that to him.

    But whatever, time to go do more of the new content instead of wasting time here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    These old friends exhausted their stay and after an expansion of them doing next to nothing of substance, 6.1 would've been the perfect opportunity to start introducing new party members. 10 years of these characters was too much already, the thought of being subjected to more of the same stagnant character development is unthinkable. Whether a competent writer can make a compelling story that includes any vestiges of the Scions is up in the air, but as now the only thing that is certain is that we won't get that from Ishikawa or from whoever wrote 6.1.
    You know, I'm genuinely curious if you have EVER watched a show that goes on for more than 10 years. I can guaranteed you that they don't suddenly change their main characters because you think "we had them for 10 years already, time for a change!" ...that's called bad writing, you know? But it seems you're a fan of bad writing because that's all you go on about. The ONLY time long running shows change main characters is if they had a second "part" to it or change the name, after a timeskip or something, which we have not had.

    Based on your "10 years of characters too much in a long running game/show, gotta change!" I bet you think shows like One Piece, Dragon Ball Z/Super, Naruto, Pokemon, and whatever other series I can't recall atm are all "bad". Most of these shows, I admit, I never stuck around for. Why? Because the characters don't appeal to me and I didn't like where the series was going. Maybe, I dunno, you should do the same? Drop the "show" of FFXIV if you don't like the characters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    So toxic. It's really embarrassing whenever I see something like this in any fandom.

    And it's kinda funny, I thought shill knights would listen to Yoshi-p words, but apparently not, considering the man himself hype "newfound adventure" so much that EW delay is due to him wanting emet to become his mouthpiece. But nooo.. It's the player's fault for expecting that to happen.

    The game could've easily introduced minor npc to go on a light adventure with us, but here have the scions instead, even though just a patch ago they said they're "disbanding" to go incognito.
    No, what's toxic is other people acting like only their opinion matters and keeps screaming the same tired thing at others in hopes to get attention and crying about how things are so so so horrible. And then people disagree with them and tell them otherwise, start crying about how they are being bullied.

    Nothing what I said was toxic because it was the truth. None of his whining about the story will ever come to fruition. The Japanese developers and story don't CARE about his OPINION on how he thinks they should do THEIR story. It's THEIR story. Not his. Not yours. Not anyone else's. You either come along for the ride or get off if you don't like it. That's how it was before we had social media or anything to contact the producers about and tbh that is how it should stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    "Disbanding" in quote marks, as an official organisation. They're still our friends and they're allowed to still hang out with us as individuals.
    No one said otherwise. Read more carefully next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    No one said otherwise. Read more carefully next time.
    I read what you said. You said we should find someone new to go on an adventure with because we "disbanded" with the Scions, which we did not. They are still our friends and we still have every reason to call on them when we need help with dungeon exploration.
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