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    Jahro Katika
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    They are not item level 500+. People get synced to level 50 and its associated item level (130).
    I don't think the raids need to be adjusted to cater to these players because "It sucks and is bad".
    I favor making it challenging but still doable by the players who actually Need it for the MSQ.

    Also.. can a lvl 50 get 130 gear if they haven't made it to Ishgard yet?

    ** Yes.. derp the augmented ironworks tombstone gear..**
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    Last edited by JRat; 10-08-2022 at 09:11 AM.

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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRat View Post
    I don't think the raids need to be adjusted to cater to these players because "It sucks and is bad".
    I favor making it challenging but still doable by the players who actually Need it for the MSQ.
    I think it's perfectly doable even at minimum item level. There just might be a wipe or two and everyone will learn from it. It's a lot like how the latest normal mode trials and raids can wipe everyone but they will get it after a few pulls.

    Everyone in an alliance raid is a bit of a dorito. The reason a lot of alliance raids don't wipe is actually because the people new to it or who forgot it just follow everyone else. Another reason they don't wipe is because alliance raids are designed to allow a certain percentage of people to not do the mechanics (example, not everyone has to be on a pad for Ancient Flare, just most people) so if a few sprouts don't do the mechanic they will just get a rez after it.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    ... The reason a lot of alliance raids don't wipe is actually because the people new to it or who forgot it just follow everyone else. ... so if a few sprouts don't do the mechanic they will just get a rez after it.
    so much me...
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    Adjust it so that it lasts the same time as the others. This will reduce the amount of ilvl cheese. But I think it's statistically more probable that you get CT regardless.

    Also slightly retool encounters (personal experience, but its more common to wipe to Ancient Flare or look-at-me-and-get-Doom than say, post-nerf Thunder God)

    We will run into the "oh the poor newbs will think is too hard", but, in my opinion: Nah.
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    Don't the devs want the MSQ and all its dungeons and trials to be soloable eventually? Doing a 24 player raid completely goes against that ideology. Time to gut the Crystal Tower and give it the Praetorium treatment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiRon View Post
    they really should either:
    1) heavily ilv lock it and slap it into MSQ roulette (lota ilv75, st ilv90, wod ilv110) so that the first two raids actually have mechanics (they could keep wod at ilv130 ig) or
    2) make it a set of solo instances thereby allowing everyone to once again never fear being bored senseless during their daily alliance
    Yeah, the ilvl cheese makes many old expansion fights a complete joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishe-P View Post
    I'm sorry. It sucks and is bad.
    A lot of things have to go.
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    “Your ilvl equipped is much lower than the highest level that you have equipped before. You will be queued with players of similar circumstances.”

    Jack up the rewards of raids 60+, all of them give multiple materia clusters, chonky as hell xp, this only happens if you queued in your highest ilvl available.

    Shouldn’t be removed, but cheesing the queue with ilvls should be, I haven’t seen an ivalice or nier raid since I left aether, and maybe 2? Mach raids. Seeing one person’t health shoot up as they put on lunar envoy gear is deflating.
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Double edged sword really.

    You did join roulette. Fair or not, you get what you get. Your inconvenience is paid for in xp.

    However you are not wrong about the difficulty.. they absolutely should reduce the sync of ilvl to make it at least as challenging as 3.x raid. That is to say, players really should do the mechanics, even if they nerf some of them (like remove the charge- tower mechanic in behemoth).

    Alternatively, just rework it to a 4 man dungeon at this point.
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    Ishe Platinum
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    You did join roulette. Fair or not, you get what you get. Your inconvenience is paid for in xp.
    Look, I understand the point of roulettes and their fundamental function to maintain old content, I really do. However, there are now 13 alliance zones in the game, 3 of which seem to be more prominent than the others. Why is it my fault for joining roulette earnestly hoping NOT to get CT when I have no personal control over whether that's the case and maybe getting a little variety or unpredictability out of my game? This argument makes no sense to me, but if I must take the blame for unwillingly padding out the numbers of the lamest alliance raid in the game on the daily I guess I must.
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