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    Just to point out, you do realize that increased song duration will actually allow you to slot in a bigger amount of time to DPSing?

    I forgot how long exactly the song duration is, but- Say the songs last 3 minutes. So given you're playing it safe and keeping two groups of buffs up, you have a window of about 2 minutes to DPS between running and buffing.
    Then consider the relic increased the song duration go 6 minutes, you'd still spend the same 1 minute doing the buffing cycle, but now you go from having 2 minutes avaiable for DPS to 5 minutes. A lot more damage-focused.

    As you can see, it's an indirect boost to your DPS capacity.
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    I don't think anyone's mentioned that the increased song duration utilized with Battle voice and AF enhancements makes for a powerful buff.
    higher DPS than Garuda's spine is a plus, but unlike Garuda's spine it retains it DMG which benefits your light shot which is the majority of a bards damage overall.

    Only downside to this bow is that the Accuracy is not really needed, the attack boost is lacklustre and you cannot light shot in-between weapon skills.

    And let's be honest, bard will never pull hate lol
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    Last edited by Leoheart; 06-28-2012 at 10:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leoheart View Post
    you cannot light shot in-between weapon skills.
    This is not true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leoheart View Post
    And let's be honest, bard will never pull hate
    On many boss fights, with the exception with Chimera and others that are resistant to piercing damage, on my Bard I com close to pulling hate each battle. I'm very glad the relic will give me more minus enmity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmandaHuggenkiss View Post
    This is not true.
    Care to elaborate on this? If you're waiting to Light shot in-between combo's on a bow of 4.1s Delay then it perpetuates a loss of overall damage due to waiting on your cool downs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leoheart View Post
    Care to elaborate on this? If you're waiting to Light shot in-between combo's on a bow of 4.1s Delay then it perpetuates a loss of overall damage due to waiting on your cool downs.
    If you use Garuda's Spine the delay is short enough to weave LS/WS together without time loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat View Post
    If you use Garuda's Spine the delay is short enough to weave LS/WS together without time loss.
    ~~~this~~~
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    I think that the bow is actually the best relic, not only can you make a BV song last for a full extra minute with the enhance (4 mins total), but it saves you time on recasting songs so you can keep a smoother rotation. Sure, I would have liked some more attack bonuses or something, but looking at all the other weapons and how lackluster they are, I can't complain at all with bow.
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    Although with the boost to base dmg., even though relic's delay is longer it should be better overall.
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    I'm talking about Artemis bow, not Garuda's spine. lol :x

    edit: Missed your last comment there, I'm sure someone will tell us as/when they get their bow
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    I'm with Leohart on this one. The delay on Garuda's Spine is fine for WS>LS>WS>LS>WS>LS, but on the Artemis Bow I can't help but think you'd actually decrease your overall DPS by waiting for LS after each WS.

    Even with Garuda's spine you waste about a second each time you wait for light shot between WS's but I'm pretty sure your DPS comes out better overall compared to straight combos followed by a few light shots to build tp again.

    Curious if anyone has parsed the difference between a WS>LS>WS cycle versus full combo > TP build > full combo cycle on bows with higher delays.
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