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  1. #161
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    Normally I agree with OP and Theo, as controversial as that may sound, buuut I feel like this one's a bit of a stretch.

    Now don't get me wrong. Island Sanctuary is shit. It's boring, unrewarding, not much more than a time sink for little if any gains, and shows that SE can do instanced housing but simply refuses to. It probably would improve if Yoshi decided to actually go and play it on his own time, but I also want to say that it's not shit because he doesn't play it. It's just a heavily flawed piece of content. It's one of 14's attempts to cash in on people that want a different genre of game but suffer from brand loyalty.

    Where's the hemorrhaging players part coming from anyways? I'm all for that as it would hopefully spook them into making changes the game desperately needs (as well as satisfy my spitefulness), but sadly this is the only other popular mmo on the market that isn't straight up bad like BDO so I can't see it happening. At least outside of the often spike and wane.

    The game has problems. Far too many to list here. This isn't as pressing as some of the other ones especially since Island Sanctuary is, well, island content. Has little effect on the game as a whole and just exists in its own realm. That said, I can only hope this gets the touching up it deserves.
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  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    This wording in the article is what I found interesting as well. I'd assume that the head dev would have probably at least run around a little bit on the island using test accounts, so to say "he didn't play it" is a bit inaccurate. However, the fact that he can't name a single thing that he likes about it is ... sad, and somewhat telling, in my opinion. It reminds me of cooking simulator on steam. I've clocked about 20 minutes into that game. I've played it. But if you asked me what my favorite part about it was, I wouldn't be able to give you a straight answer because even though I technically objectively played it, I never really sank my teeth into it or anything.

    People who were disappointed with island sanctuary might look at this article and feel... something. I didn't expect it to be good because I'm a pessimistic asshole, but I also don't expect Yoshi to personally nolife everything this game has to offer. To me, this news isn't infuriating or anything. But I think some people who were craving island sanctuary and were then let down by it, are definitely going to look at this article and feel like maybe island sanctuary could've gotten the blm treatment if yoshi had actually sank his teeth into it and played it more. Whether or not that's an accurate assessment, no one can say. But it is what it is.

    I love threads like these and really don't see why people get so pissed about them. Every time this guy with the car signature makes a thread criticizing the game, people come out mad as hell at him and calling him a troll, like he just personally spat on their grandmother. Personally, I don't feel trolled. But I also don't pretend that gaming studios are my friends, so.
    I wonder if anyone here has ever developed something (not even gaming but really anything). After days/months/years of making and testing something, you get burnt out on it. He might not be able to name a favorite part because once burned out on it. He might be taking time to let the dev negativity wear out, then go play and enjoy from a gamer perspective, not a dev perspective.
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  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    I suppose it was too much to expect for people to connect the dots despite the glaring issues with the quote in the OP, but at this point it's hardly worth explaining. Gradually over time since Stormblood we've been forced to put up with more and more of Yoshi's whims and terrible ideas in the vein of limited jobs, limited races he never planned to follow up on, and most recently what many view as his attempt to tamper with directly with the game's storytelling in Endwalker. No wonder it felt like such a disaster on that front, Dynamis didn't exist when Ishikawa wrote Shadowbringers.

    As for content and gameplay, I hardly need to go on at length about either. Take a look around. This "playground" is in ruins.
    And you continue to support it. You constantly pay a sub, you buy stuff from the mog station (including a very modern outfit which kinda clashes with all the medival talk and the shiba dog which only came out recently). Why should they change it if even people like you are still staying and paying?

    Also curious if you have more characters than those linked into your profile. Because only one of those have a single job at lvl 90. Not a single crafter and gatherer the last I looked and barely any minions or mounts too. How much of the content are you playing?

    Also did you finally do Island Sancturary? In another thread you said that you only get your information from others.

    I have posted quite negatively in the past too, yet I always tried to have at least done the content for a bit.

    And about the topic itself: So why would it matter if Yoshida plays it or not? Does he have to clear a Ultimate too for it to be developed? Should he gather every mount that comes out too or otherwise those are worth nothing?

    He is a busy man. And he might have more in his life next to work than FF14. So maybe he wants to use the time he has in the game to do something else? I mean that is the normal way to do it. Do the things you like best the most.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 10-07-2022 at 03:09 AM.

  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    And you continue to support it. You constantly pay a sub, you buy stuff from the mog station (including a very modern outfit which kinda clashes with all the medival talk and the shiba dog which only came out recently). Why should they change it if even people like you are still staying and paying?

    Also curious if you have more characters than those linked into your profile. Because only one of those have a single job at lvl 90. Not a single crafter and gatherer the last I looked and barely any minions or mounts too. How much of the content are you playing?

    Also did you finally do Island Sancturary? In another thread you said that you only get your information from others.

    I have posted quite negatively in the past too, yet I always tried to have at least done the content for a bit.
    Apologies but if you had to start digging into someone's armory it has gone too far, for all we know those could have been gifts form other people. I know half my mounts are birthday gifts or holiday gifts. I also have won a few things here and there from random FC events.

    As for the whole topic I can see the argument a bit, do I fully agree? No but for the love of Hydaelyn some of you really need to back off posting in certain topics just to argue with and bemoan the author.
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  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeronia View Post
    Apologies but if you had to start digging into someone's armory it has gone too far, for all we know those could have been gifts form other people. I know half my mounts are birthday gifts or holiday gifts. I also have won a few things here and there from random FC events.

    As for the whole topic I can see the argument a bit, do I fully agree? No but for the love of Hydaelyn some of you really need to back off posting in certain topics just to argue and bemoan the author.
    Too far? By clicking on someones profile? That he choose to link to this forum account? You know you can see those minions if you get to the character profile itself? And the clothes are seen in his picture too. So its too far when you check out someones profile that constantly posts negative opinions but its fine that he bascially assumes what Yoshida does in his free time or if some sentence in a interview means that he dislikes IS.

    I am bascially just interested what someone has done when they complain so much. And I was quite surprised how he barely have any items. Things that you often get by doing content. Together with him stating that he has not done Island himself I just really doubt if he really plays this game that much. And that matters imo if you post so many topics about how this game sucks, how it would be better and how horrible the devs are.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 10-07-2022 at 03:21 AM.

  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Restonance View Post
    Normally I agree with OP and Theo, as controversial as that may sound, buuut I feel like this one's a bit of a stretch.

    Now don't get me wrong. Island Sanctuary is shit. It's boring, unrewarding, not much more than a time sink for little if any gains, and shows that SE can do instanced housing but simply refuses to. It probably would improve if Yoshi decided to actually go and play it on his own time, but I also want to say that it's not shit because he doesn't play it. It's just a heavily flawed piece of content. It's one of 14's attempts to cash in on people that want a different genre of game but suffer from brand loyalty.

    Where's the hemorrhaging players part coming from anyways? I'm all for that as it would hopefully spook them into making changes the game desperately needs (as well as satisfy my spitefulness), but sadly this is the only other popular mmo on the market that isn't straight up bad like BDO so I can't see it happening. At least outside of the often spike and wane.

    The game has problems. Far too many to list here. This isn't as pressing as some of the other ones especially since Island Sanctuary is, well, island content. Has little effect on the game as a whole and just exists in its own realm. That said, I can only hope this gets the touching up it deserves.
    Have to admit that I started building mine but lost interest fairly quickly - it just doesn't really suit my tastes, although am happy it's there for those who do enjoy what it offers.

    As for the "hemorrhaging players" claim - I tend to take such claims from players with a pinch of salt. We don't have access to S.E's metrics and there is no way that a player can say that they know for a fact that their assumptions pertaining to the game "hemorrhaging players" is absolutely true and undisputable. And whilst I realise Steam offers some data in this respect, I'd argue that Steam also represents a very small demographic of the overall playerbase.

    In fact, from an entirely personal viewpoint, I would go so far as to assume that the fact that there is a log in queue, of varying size, almost every time I log into the game might suggest (at the very least) consistently healthy player numbers.
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  7. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Have to admit that I started building mine but lost interest fairly quickly - it just doesn't really suit my tastes, although am happy it's there for those who do enjoy what it offers.

    As for the "hemorrhaging players" claim - I tend to take such claims from players with a pinch of salt. We don't have access to S.E's metrics and there is no way that a player can say that they know for a fact that their assumptions pertaining to the game "hemorrhaging players" is absolutely true and undisputable. And whilst I realise Steam offers some data in this respect, I'd argue that Steam also represents a very small demographic of the overall playerbase.

    In fact, from an entirely personal viewpoint, I would go so far as to assume that the fact that there is a log in queue, of varying size, almost every time I log into the game might suggest (at the very least) consistently healthy player numbers.
    Those queues are fake. Do the experiment at night and see how random the numbers are from one account to another.

    I've had queues up to 26 at night on Sagittarius which is the lowest EU world right now, while bigger worlds like Ragnarok get no queue at all, this is also taken at night at like 4 AM. Yet if you go on Sagi's Limsa, the place is almost completely empty.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    From one account to another...? What kind of sample size are we talking here?
    As in if you log on one account, and then at the same time log on another account
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 10-07-2022 at 03:31 AM.

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  9. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I am bascially just interested what someone has done when they complain so much. And I was quite surprised how he barely have any items. Things that you often get by doing content. Together with him stating that he has not done Island himself I just really doubt if he really plays this game that much. And that matters imo if you post so many topics about how this game sucks, how it would be better and how horrible the devs are.
    Did you know it's possible to have more than one character?
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  10. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Did you know it's possible to have more than one character?
    Yes I know, I have some alts myself. Still post this on my main because why should I keep it a secret? Yet he somehow linked quite a few alt characters, yet not his main? Its just strange to me. But who knows maybe I read too much into it. I simply dont see why I should hide my character.
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    It usually boils down to concern for one's privacy. Whether appropriate or unfounded, not everyone is comfortable with their mains being out there. Sometimes it's just a wanting to keep a low profile thing. Or, y'know, someone outspoken about their opinions might be concerned about possible in-game fallout. Could be any number of reasons.
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