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    Player AwesomeJr44's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    I really dont rofl. But if Im disagreeing with aveyond, or whoever who posts something, then somebody makes a vague jab or comment at people disagreeing with Aveyond, its not farfetched to think Im apart of that. Or the mentioned accusation in another thread about having double standards.


    Happened in the other thread too, where I said that certain people were using a double standard. You inserted yourself in, I told you clearly that I wasn't talking about you (multiple times might I add), and you still insisted that you were being lumped into a us vs. them situation. So sorry, I don't believe that elsewhere you are genuinely getting lumped into groups you don't belong in/labeled by other posters. I can't believe you because you do it to yourself so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by SetsunaSakura View Post
    ff is really subjective for you the Story was undwhelimg, for me it was a Triple A Cinematic
    And yet it reeks of a low budget. We didn't even get to see the fight between Zodiark and Hydaelyn, nor the sundering itself. Which you know, is kinda important in the finale of the Hydaelyn and Zodiark arc. All we got was people standing in circles talking to each other.

    Quote Originally Posted by MonsutaMan View Post
    FFXIV is becoming the Golden-child of MMO, which is bad news for the playerbase.

    https://www.referralcandy.com/blog/w...eting-strategy

    Beyond Reproach: Such that no criticism can be made; perfect.
    We've already arrived there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post


    Happened in the other thread too, where I said that certain people were using a double standard. You inserted yourself in, I told you clearly that I wasn't talking about you (multiple times might I add), and you still insisted that you were being lumped into a us vs. them situation. So sorry, I don't believe that elsewhere you are genuinely getting lumped into groups you don't belong in/labeled by other posters. I can't believe you because you do it to yourself so much.
    That picture doesnt really make sense....again, you make it sound like you're the only one, when there are multiple people.
    I didnt lump myself in with the crowd and then get mad at you.

    Also....know what...Can you provide a quote of the interaction? Because now Im getting the idea that maybe things are being misunderstood.
    Maybe one or both of us arnt being as clear as possible, or intentions are just not understood.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    That picture doesnt really make sense....again, you make it sound like you're the only one, when there are multiple people.
    I didnt lump myself in with the crowd and then get mad at you.
    I mean... the image is also a gross generalization. I did call the thread bait, for example, but only because the way the argument was presented felt "weak". And I did mention it before, it felt weak because it sounded like he was going for "The dev didn't play the content, see, see, see???". I didn't agree. Not at the start: I'm all up for discussing how the devs treat the game and whether it's been fair or with effort, but I've made the mistake before of nitpicking the devs for one mistake that could be explained away with some thought. Especially since a lot of people are that quick to jump into the devs' defence, often excusing bad habits while they're at it.

    But then I understood what he was going for, in which case, yeah, I agreed. And I'll even add that the quote is inconsistent. Yoshida says 3 things:
    1 - "There are a lot [of favorite parts about Island Sanctuary]"
    2 - "I like being able to play without needing to hurry and having the freedom to play by myself"
    3 - "I have yet to step foot in the island sanctuary on my personal account."
    Which I took it in two ways.
    1 - How can he say that he has a lot of favourites and loves playing without needing to hurry when he hasn't played through it?
    2 - Not on his personal account, but he has played through it on the testing servers. Which isn't the same, since you can godmode and rush the process, bypassing the tedious aspects entirely.
    And I am trying to come up with the benefit of the doubt to satisfy the aforementioned "I don't want to nitpick on the devs without giving it some thought", but everything I can come up with just doesn't get past #2. His wording is specifically that "he hasn't set foot in it on his personal account". Even if he's played through it, it's not the same as it being on your personal account, which is a reflection of your own interests and effort.

    And given how what Yoshida doesn't play just so happens to be the parts that are in need of attention... I'm not saying it's true, but it is sus. And the man hasn't done much to convince me of otherwise. A post defending buffing PvP BLM, even if they were justified, just sounded weird.

    Even when I disagreed with Aveyond, I really didn't care if he was right or not. Sometimes I read his stuff and I agree, sometimes I disagree. Sometimes he says things I'm like "Yes, 100%" but sometimes he says something that I'm like "Well, there isn't really proof of that, is there?". And yeah, he's infamous for making posts about disliking things, but I've seen him post about stuff he does like and respect about the game, rare as they may be. So even if he's known for being a contrarian, I can still look at what he says and think for myself whether I agree or not, even if I'm mistaken.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cithaerias_pyropina View Post
    Highly doubt you'd be lambasted by the "supporters" of this thread and more so the masterclass healers that are annoyed at healer gameplay in the Healer Role subforum that almost never come to General Discussion. You make a thread about liking the current state of healing in General Discussion and you will hardly see much of anyone in this thread here posting in it.
    :P I don't main a healer, even if I like Astrologian. It's not what I play at higher levels, and as I mentioned, I'm not a smart person. I don't know how healer optimization looks like. My input would just be weak in comparison. I can give my support for healers, but I'd hardly know what to say if anyone asks how the gameplay should be. Because I might have trash ideas that just aren't viable for high-end play.
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