I don't think you really know what devs doing their own thing looks like outside of WoW. If you think Yoshida is bad you should have seen how the XI team was before Tanaka and those that left him to start on XIV treated their playerbase. They fought with them. Even when the playerbase did the maths on something and only wanted to get the devs to say yes, good for you that's how that system works. There was a constant fight over how XI's Ninja was to be played while he was there. We got about 6 months if having the job be buffed in favor of how the playerbase played it before they went and not only reversed it but also moving it further in the direction the devs wanted it to be taken.

Even the small number of fan fests XI had might as well have not even happened as it was just an icey reception when it came to any interaction with those devs. Heck I'm sure you can find videos and see how cold and standoffish the devs are. They all looked like they were wondering why they had to be there. Even the WoW devs have in the past been able to hide any contempt they might have for their game's players better than the old XI devs.

Imagine if the entire playerbase treated the Balance Discord or any other place that's put in the work to figure out how something is in the game should work as equal footing to the devs saying it and you have just a glimpse of how XI was. I might not agree with or like some things Yoshida and the rest have done, but I haven't ever once felt the way the old XI devs made an entire playerbase feel from them.