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    This "mysterious content" btw is called Savage, its been a mainstay content type since ARR and can take casual groups months to clear. Its content Yoshi P is proven to play on his offtime and given his history probably the content type he enjoys most.

    You undermine your own point by jumping at every shadow, my guy. But by all means keep jumping; maybe you're right and Yoshi really is crashing the brand into the dirt.
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    Makes me think back to how he played his favorite class in pvp before making adjustments to it.

    On one hand, sure, you can't expect a singular dev to play test every piece of content they create or oversee. There will be a bias, regardless. The issue though, is that it almost seems as if Yoshi P isn't interested in it personally, he won't try it out, even when it's his own game. It's a bad look. You want developers to be interested in their own content. If a dev isn't enthusiastic about their own works, then how can you expect anyone else to be?

    And of course there's the minor bias towards content as well. Everyone has preferences, it's just Yoshi P's preferences tend to be rather strong and unchecked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    This "mysterious content" btw is called Savage, its been a mainstay content type since ARR and can take casual groups months to clear. Its content Yoshi P is proven to play on his offtime and given his history probably the content type he enjoys most.

    You undermine your own point by jumping at every shadow, my guy. But by all means keep jumping; maybe you're right and Yoshi really is crashing the brand into the dirt.
    To add to the above: there's also the Critereon dungeons.

    He's also working on FFXVI. So even if he wasn't waiting for Critereon dungeons to launch and he is ready to jump into Island Sanctuary on his personal account, he may have to deal with FFXVI game things instead and not be able to do so.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Makes me think back to how he played his favorite class in pvp before making adjustments to it.

    On one hand, sure, you can't expect a singular dev to play test every piece of content they create or oversee. There will be a bias, regardless. The issue though, is that it almost seems as if Yoshi P isn't interested in it personally, he won't try it out, even when it's his own game. It's a bad look. You want developers to be interested in their own content. If a dev isn't enthusiastic about their own works, then how can you expect anyone else to be?

    And of course there's the minor bias towards content as well. Everyone has preferences, it's just Yoshi P's preferences tend to be rather strong and unchecked.
    Basically this. As far as I'm concerned Yoshi's preferences are hurting anyone who isn't aligned with them by way of neglect. The lengths and arguments people have spun in defense of it will never cease to amaze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    It's an attempt to write off valid criticism.
    There is none of that present in the OP
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Basically this. As far as I'm concerned Yoshi's preferences are hurting anyone who isn't aligned with them by way of neglect. The lengths and arguments people have spun in defense of it will never cease to amaze.
    And yet the entire caster role is the one closest to the chopping block in current savage balance, with BLM having been in a weird position ever since verraise was introduced 6 years ago. Hmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Pray tell what is this mysterious other content in question? Because right now there's hardly anything to do in this game besides turning in leves for gil on the off chance things improve. 10 minutes every 2 weeks. Enough for forum access, but little else.

    Regardless, there has always been a clear bias against the stuff that Yoshi doesn't personally play. This extends to nearly every facet of the game, with this latest bit being the latest example of that. He wasn't into it, so he let them release an island where all you do is click things. It is not acceptable.

    The dude plays a Lalafell and female Raen, you think he would've let either race remain in the state Hrothgar and Viera were in for 2 years until people started going behind his back in order to clean up the state of those two races? Or how about if his favorite class was Blue Mage instead of Black Mage, would it have been reduced to a useless minigame you can't do current content with?

    Yeah, I take issue with him clearly not caring about anything that falls outside whatever it is he does in game. The so-called King of Final Fantasy so far has had quite a performance this expansion. A decade worth of goodwill done away with in 10 months.
    My assumption from the current content would be savage. From what we heard over the years he seems to be a pretty skilled blackmage. The bias thing is a weird one tbh. I dont think many people believed that one announcement where they claimed that all the buffs to BLM in CC werent because it's his favorite job. But he also seems to enjoy the harder content in the game and yet the current savage tier is underwhelming.

    Also what do you mean with useless minigame for bluemage? Blue carnival?

    Regardless, if he is just talking about his personal account, that doesnt tell us how much of what content he has actually played.
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  8. #28
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    I mean...he obviously played it when the team was developing it. He means he hasnt had the time to play it on his character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seera1024 View Post
    What does YoshiP's playing or not of Island Sanctuary on his personal account have to do with how good or bad a patch is or what direction quality wise the game is going in?

    Every aspect of the game doesn't have to appeal to YoshiP for it to be added to the account and it may just not be something that he finds too terribly interesting so he hasn't done it on his personal account.

    His answer to the question isn't one that is affected by his not having played the mode either.
    I'd like to believe that Yoshi could base the success of something on statistics or other objective methods. Maybe the number of subs ticked up? Maybe there are many more logins than usual.

    If a chef based the success of his creation on just his own tastes, but the customers stopped coming, would it be a success?
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvarer View Post
    Which is exactly why some people call aveyond a troll, because he conveniently omits anything that doesn't align with the narrative he's trying to spin. And people jump to conclusions without that extra bit of information.
    Aveyond also strikes me a tad misogynistic a bit with his take on female characters and male characters. Its very biased and stupid and I wouldnt be saying all that and just strike it up as harmless opinion if it werent for the fact for how hard he pushes his own agendas and constantly treats his opinions as hard fact. Its very degrading and completely undermines the actual good points he makes.
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