That Which He Does Not Play

[Oizen]

Friendly reminder that Yoshida is a suit and you should treat him as such.

[SetsunaSakura]

Friendly reminder that Yoshida is a suit and you should treat him as such.

First of all he is a human like his workers are, so pay all of them respect

[Atelier-Bagur]

I am forced to question why there's so much backlash over mere criticism. So what if someone complains about the game a lot? Voicing criticism is not the same thing as disliking a product. There's nothing wrong with pointing out flaws, whether real or perceived, in a product you care about. It's fine to disagree with someone's criticisms, but trying to tell them their opinion is objectively wrong is pretty stupid.

People don't make forum posts looking to be "proven wrong" anyway. People that are proven wrong normally won't admit they're wrong no matter what is said to them, and this goes for a large number of posters on here whether they realize it or not.

It seems to me quite a few posters believe this thread to be a case of someone that wouldn't accept being wrong regardless of circumstances. If this is the case -- or if this is a bait thread -- then I've but one question: why bother?

Usually the problem is that when somebody starts to believe in the smell of their own farts, it starts to get very annoying and that's been the case with aveyond who has a strong record for terrible takes.

Just like how he believes that he shouldnt be silenced for spewing out his opinions so do people also shouldn't be silenced for challenging them

[RokkuEkkusu]

I'm gonna go on a tangent and repeat a major criticism I do have with the game:

The minions earned from the level 87, 89, and 90 dungeons in their last treasure coffers are still "Market Prohibited". The patch is currently two patches ahead of the main story. There is no point in making them "Market Prohibited" anymore. What is happening now with certain minions and orchestrion rolls as mentioned can set a rather bad precedent for future expansions, especially with the extremely low drop rates. And the minion from the "Stigma Dreamscape" dungeon is just as spoiler worthy as the three minions.

Time after time, someone either tried to play devil's advocate against what I said the and/or this point became ignored altogether because people would not even care unless it affected them directly. Would I be upset? Absolutely. Would I make a big fuss about it? No.

It is what it is and the only things I can do to get my points across are to get them as concise, detailed, and reasonable as I can.

[AngelCheese77]

Ah I see the OP changed to a Highlander. Nice

[Theodric]

If I was to make a thread about my enjoyment of the current state of healing I'd be insulted and ragged on by many of ths threads supporters.
It's a 2 way issue.

I doubt that very much.

[Kes13a]

I doubt that very much.

not sure where you have been but positive threads about liking an aspect of the game, or even the game itself are generally "shouted" down as the poster being a shill or what have you. that has been proven time and time again. so not sure why you express doubt

[Kazhar]

not sure where you have been but positive threads about liking an aspect of the game, or even the game itself are generally "shouted" down as the poster being a shill or what have you. that has been proven time and time again. so not sure why you express doubt

"I hate haters" threads are not positive.

[AwesomeJr44]

If I was to make a thread about my enjoyment of the current state of healing I'd be insulted and ragged on by many of this threads supporters.
It's a 2 way issue.

I doubt that very much.

I agree with Theodric. I probably wouldn't be in such a thread as I don't play healer that much, but as long as the points made were good, I'd be in support of a thread like that. I'm not against criticism of the game, even if I disagree with the premise. For example, I don't 100% agree with Aveyond's OP here but I still support his ability to be critical of the game/devs, and I'm against the people who blindly hate him for it. I sincerely doubt that Ikara would be getting 'ragged' by the supporters of this thread.

not sure where you have been but positive threads about liking an aspect of the game, or even the game itself are generally "shouted" down as the poster being a shill or what have you. that has been proven time and time again. so not sure why you express doubt

Are we talking about actual positive threads or threads where the OP spends half of the post talking about how terrible people who are 'too negative' are?

"I hate haters" threads are not positive.

It's positive to them because it's directed at the 'right people'.

[Kes13a]

Are we talking about actual positive threads or threads where the OP spends half of the post talking about how terrible people who are 'too negative' are?

actual positive threads. "I hate haters" and "complaining about complainers" threads are useless and counterproductive.

positive threads tend to be derailed and ganged up on faster than any other kind. (no, I didnt think the "lets thank the devs" thread was an honest positive attempt, fell into the anti complaint category imo)