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    [spoiler: EW patch 6.2] Identity of statue in Weeping City of Mhach

    Doesn't the statue of the man in the raid Weeping City of Mhach look scarily similar to Hephaistos from Pandemonium?

    Also, the emblem Hephaistos uses to restrain and seal look really similar to the ones found in Mhach as well.

    Did Hephaistos actually create the voidsent?

    Hephaistos in Weeping City of Mhach?
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    More likely he got assigned to pull strings on the civilisation, if anything.

    Though we were previously figuring that Fandaniel got put in charge of decor, given the resemblance to the Tower of Babil.

    Also I think that teleport ring design occurs elsewhere as well, though I haven't compared for certain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Also I think that teleport ring design occurs elsewhere as well, though I haven't compared for certain.
    It's damn close to how we get underwater in Alzadaal's Legacy. I don't have a picture to confirm, though.

    This is probably just coincidence, though. There's only so many ways to make scowl-y human men with long hair in FFXIV (I actually think it resembles Raubahn more, he's got more forehead going), and we know for a fact that Lahabrea wasn't so vain as to impose his own face on his hosts like Emet. If there was a statue to Lahabrea in a post-Sundering civilization, it wouldn't look like Hephaistos.

    Also it was Igeyorhm that made the voidsent, not Lahabrea! C'mon, give credit to her in the one place it's due!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Also it was Igeyorhm that made the voidsent, not Lahabrea! C'mon, give credit to her in the one place it's due!
    I'm not sure that she can be credited for creating them, as such. She knocked over the can of black paint but didn't have any creative input into the resulting mess.
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    That's an interesting observation, at the very least.

    Based off of Emet's description of events in the Ocular, I don't think that any of them expected the Flood of Darkness to turn out the way that it did. I'd be interested in learning about what interactions the Ascians subsequently had with the Void, especially because they seemed to be on a more even footing there than with some of their subsequent creations. Loghrif at the very least uses a lot of Void Magic (especially in your first fight against her in E2S), and I doubt that she'd be the only one to study those techniques given how academically inclined their society was.
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    Looks like a highlander hyur to me. It looks more like Ranjit without the beard and mustache imo.
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    It's supposed to be Mhachi sorcerer. There are similar statues at the end of Dun Scaith as well.

    Makes sense when you realize that the Highlanders living in Gyr Abania are descended from the Mhachi who crashed there, ala RDM questline explanations on Red Magic being a mix between Amdapori x Mhach survivors clinging together to survive.

    I do like where your head is at with this. They could easily fit it in that the sorceror is Lahabrea doing Source side shenanigans with the Voidsent to try and salvage 13th for proper Rejoining or something.
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    What I would like to see if an evil ancient has the power of future sight and foresees the Final Days (Mikoto from Bozja has a shard of this ability), and by using this information creates a primal with the task of ensuring the survival of the ancients lives (similar to Garland in FFIX) and storing ancients souls and memories on a spaceship with the task of rejoining worlds/reflections to regain their old homeworld. This would also be the most logical approach to avoid being in the midst of calamity during rejoinings.

    According to Garland in FFIX, he consumed worlds to replenish the life force of the ancients which lay dormant. And their method was to halt the planets flow of souls. Which is what happened to the Thirteenth.

    It would be interesting to see what happened to the ancients after the flood of darkness, and if the voidsent that lie dormant in the coffers are indeed corrupted and twisted souls of Etheirys...

    Also, creating cloning technology (similar to Garland from FFIX) so that the ancients would have body's when they finally regained their homeworld. Cloning tech is already established by Emet-Selch.

    Garland also has an interesting quote about memories, that hints about how memories and souls are in FFXIV, and the possibility for them to be used (confirmed by Venat).

    "Life is connected, one to another... If you trace the root of all life, there exists one source. The same can be said for memory. All life constitutes an intelligence that holds memory beyond experience."
    Garland's voice in Memoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    That's an interesting observation, at the very least.

    Based off of Emet's description of events in the Ocular, I don't think that any of them expected the Flood of Darkness to turn out the way that it did. I'd be interested in learning about what interactions the Ascians subsequently had with the Void, especially because they seemed to be on a more even footing there than with some of their subsequent creations. Loghrif at the very least uses a lot of Void Magic (especially in your first fight against her in E2S), and I doubt that she'd be the only one to study those techniques given how academically inclined their society was.
    Not just Loghrif; the first Ascian in the prologue summons a Lesser Gargoyle, and Ascians were involved with the incidents at Haukke Manor and Shisui of the Violet Tides.
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    I think voidsent and void magic are just a pretty natural resource for Ascians to tag in when they need to get violent. They don't really need to play by the dangerous rules of contracting that normal people do, they can kinda just open a portal and drag them in. It's almost resourceful, actually; they made a world of ravenous monsters, and have the ability to crack open portals, so why not use 'em?

    If you were a wizard with no regard for the lives of others, a need to defend yourself (or to just kill some people for whatever your plan asks for), and access to a dimension populated entirely by angry grizzly bears, I think you'd probably do pretty similar.
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