Level squish?

[bubblesbutternut]

How does that have anything to do with WHM’s atrocious levelling curve

because it is on topic changing skills to be lower level has nothing to do with the topic at hand
main topic of op is will they reduce the level cap

my first post in the forum explained why there would be a level cap or an item cap
and the second post was explaining in further detail that even changing the level cap would not in the grand scheme of things change much other than making easier for devs to have cleaner code and be faster for them to add new gear

lower skill levels to adjust for oh i dont have this skill compared to another class has nothing to do with the actual topic at hand

[Limecat]

I feel like the Lv99 thing is far too baked into SE's image for them to ever consider changing that. I won't say further upgrades will take the exact same form as XI's, but I do expect similar design philosophies to come into play.

[Zsolen]

How did this play out in XI over the years?

[Jojoya]

They must have some sort of plan in the works since they've strongly hinted that their goal for the future is for new players to jump directly into the new story arc being developed for 7.0 instead of being forced to go through the 1-90 MSQ first (though that would remain an option).

It might be a secondary leveling path. 2.0 to 6.0 (or 6.55) would be its own leveling path with 7.0 (or 6.1) onward a second leveling path.

I expect they'll have some sort of announcement at the next FanFests for how things will work in 7.0.

[Floortank]

FFXI stopped at 99 and went to a master level system. EQ2 has done similar.

They won't squish levels, but they'll probably look into a way to make it easier for people to get from start to finish.

Master level system, job level system, and item level gear system in FFXI's endgame all calculate your level up past 99, they just do so invisibly. It is worked into the calculations of the game against mob levels that sit at 130+ that you would by no means be able to fight at 99 under any circumstance.

It still has a level system, you just don't level up anymore. You get your level ups from gear and extremely tiny master / job level increments at 99.

[AnnaUK]

I tend to be against a "level squish"

mainly because it feels like you suddenly didnt put in all the time it took to get to the higher level. stat squish I can understand and dont mind, but taking away levels I have earned is a harder thing to wrap my brain around. its likely just me, but I seriously hated it when WoW did it, and was the final nail in that particular coffin for me. to me, it felt like they had taken away the final indicator that I had put any time into the game at all.

years ago I played Anarchy Online, max level was I think 220 or something, but gave you something to go for. never reached it, but I think was an incentive in some ways that a level squish promptly removes.

My biggest fear with a level squish is it making it harder to solo older content, or it breaking it.

[AnnaUK]

10 levels from every expac and you are sooner back to the original problem

I'd love to see a system like ESO - champion points that are account wide.

[Tiramu]

I'd prefer them to just keep going past lv99 so we end up with a lv150 cap or something. But as has been pointed out, depends what the mechanics can do and what affects adjusting the stat curve would have on other content.

[AnnaUK]

Do you really think a new player will want to get through 150 levels not only on one job but many?

It's even worse being stuck in story and being max level way before the main msq is over... just feels bad.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Do you really think a new player will want to get through 150 levels not only on one job but many?

It's even worse being stuck in story and being max level way before the main msq is over... just feels bad.

Oh yeah I think that level ceiling would be too much for a game that encourages playing all jobs. Having newcomers see such a high cap would be so discouraging (and prompt them to buy job skips...oh dear, I can see where this can go).

I rather have them stop at lv.99 like in FFXI and introduce some sort of secondary progression system that. The old school rpg enthusiast in me would like to bring back a point allocation system.