Suggestion for Samurai

[RileyNoxus]

I have an idea to help out samurai to be more felxable.
Make it so the Kaiten buff we get with our dash can either boost our Midera and Ogi damage,say by 50% damage boost the same as the monk buff, or enhances our basic combo to aoe.
This would allow Samurai more flexabilty with our dashes and allow us to swap between single target or aoe without wasting kaiten charges for an aoe since the gcd timer makes it a punshing choice to do while chasing or fighting a single person.
Also this could allow samurai some help without really changing much.

[Nikoto]

>50% damage boost

[Mistress_Irika]

Is Chiten not enough?

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

5 0 %

[RileyNoxus]

I don't think you three have even played samurai in pvp

[MintnHoney]

No, I think all melees, as they currently are, have enough power as it is. You're good.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

I don't think you three have even played samurai in pvp

Ok our hyperbole meme reaction aside, you are really leaning yourself far out of the window to claim this.

Samurai is my most played DPS in PvP discounting DRK and GNB (because they are dps-y tanks instead), both in ranked and in casual. Samurai for similar reasons like Warrior or Monk has access to Stun and another CC ability along with additional personal defensives in various forms. And just like those two other jobs, SAM works a little harder for their damage output than perhaps other jobs, to make up for having said CC abilities.

If you gave Midare Setsugekka +50% dmg via Kaiten, it would shoot up to 24000 without the Chiten debuff and to 30000 with it. Please also remember you gain this ability using "Meikyo Shisui", rendering you immune to all CC abilities for a guaranteed cast, with the exception of WHM's "Miracle of Nature". This CC immunity goes a LONG way to secure kills and / or bait out CC from the enemy.

Ogi Namikiri would hit for 18000 for the initial cast and another 12000 (or 18000 if you dashed again) on the second one without Chiten debuff, reaching 22500 per enhanced hit under both effects. Putting that aside, each dash does 4000 dmg by itself, so even on the standard combo you get a 7000, 9000 or 12000 ability + weaponskill combo in, depending on the step ofc. And the bind from Hyosetsu is positively strong to disrupt enemies.

All in all, while SAM isn't "perfect" by any means, it is a healthy all-rounder. It has moderate damage, defensives and access to CC abilities, making him an excellent team fight initiator. If I can recommend something that could be fixed, it is Zantetsuken's 24000 dmg not piercing Guard like the Kuzushi-enhanced Zantetsuken does.

[Vatom]

I have an idea to help out samurai to be more felxable.
Make it so the Kaiten buff we get with our dash can either boost our Midera and Ogi damage,say by 50% damage boost the same as the monk buff, or enhances our basic combo to aoe.
This would allow Samurai more flexabilty with our dashes and allow us to swap between single target or aoe without wasting kaiten charges for an aoe since the gcd timer makes it a punshing choice to do while chasing or fighting a single person.
Also this could allow samurai some help without really changing much.

Don't think that this is the best solution but I like the direction your going maybe we can flush this out a bit better since 50% is big
Also don't sweat the responses most of them cry about FL cheeses

excluding Reinhardt_Azureheim they know what they are talking about even if we don't agree on everything I respect their thoughts

[Mistress_Irika]

I don't think you three have even played samurai in pvp

I have an alt dedicated to grinding on the SAM class. I just dont play at a high level. May as well be a secondary to me.

Now then, you're asking for an additional damage boost for the cast weaponskills...fair. 50% from dashing? I can't agree with it. Chiten already offers a 25% stat bonus if you're using the ability as a defensive tool or a 50% stat bonus if you're using it as a counter burst tool. You already do 20k damage with Midare and 10k?/15k damage with Ogi while your opponent is affected with the debuff, and that isn't even factoring in Chiten's reactive damage or any dashes that you decide to do. Do those numbers really need to be that big?

[Nikoto]

I don't think you three have even played samurai in pvp

And I don't think you are very good with Samurai if you think it needs a 50% boost.