"Relic changes"

[Kewitt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEsVfa70yzw

Random video in my feed after posting this earlier today.

Yes Books in ARR would only be dungeons no other content. This should in make it so new people or people leveling other jobs always have people doing this content. or for a long time anyways.

[Kisshu]

ARR: Change it to a single big book that collects everything instead of having to buy each book one at a time. Remove fates, Leves are changed to "complete x leves at a, b and c locations". Perhaps double the light gained in the first light step.

HW: Overall at this point it's not very bad, it's mainly just a poetics/GC seals dump.

SB: Increase light gain in Pagos, it's a major bottleneck. Change fates to "difficulty based on amount of people at the previous pop" instead of total amount so bunny-bots don't penalize fate-farmers. Add option to trade Hydatos Crystals for Crystalline Scales.

SHB: Increase amount of the 3x20 memories that drop from fates. Add the timeworm artifact to other activities, or make DP 100% drop any floor-set over level 50.

[Mikey_R]

The only set I have yet to complete are the Eureakan weapons, the main part that is holding me back is the Pagos light stage. The fact you get so many crystals, but cannot support that rate with light is frustrating. FATEs need an increase in the light that they give and, as Kisshu mentioned, change how they determine the FATE boss health.

I probably wouldn't have an issue going in solo, if I knew I could kill the FATEs and not have the be artificially boosted just because there happens to be a massive BOT farm going on.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Also people seem to be forgetting to me I feel is the biggest offender from the ARR relic chain. The step where you need the craft items and desynth materials. If you're not an omnicrafter, prepare to pay huge amounts of money at the mb for the required items as people have been selling them for exuberant prices.

[SnowVix]

The only set I have yet to complete are the Eureakan weapons, the main part that is holding me back is the Pagos light stage. The fact you get so many crystals, but cannot support that rate with light is frustrating. FATEs need an increase in the light that they give and, as Kisshu mentioned, change how they determine the FATE boss health.

I probably wouldn't have an issue going in solo, if I knew I could kill the FATEs and not have the be artificially boosted just because there happens to be a massive BOT farm going on.

why are you doing the Pagos light stage? it's completely worthless as the stats are completely overridden when you upgrade to the Pyros weapon, and the Pyros light stage is only useful if you want to hyperoptimize for BA with the Physeos weapons

[Kewitt]

Really any changes to make the effort worth the reward at this point I would very much like.

[Kisshu]

why are you doing the Pagos light stage? it's completely worthless as the stats are completely overridden when you upgrade to the Pyros weapon, and the Pyros light stage is only useful if you want to hyperoptimize for BA with the Physeos weapons

You have to do the Pagos light farming for the weapon upgrades. It's not like in Pyros where the light crystals are only used for the gacha stats.

[SnowVix]

You have to do the Pagos light farming for the weapon upgrades. It's not like in Pyros where the light crystals are only used for the gacha stats.

right, forgot it was for that weird Frosted Protean Crystal step. Terrible design tbh.