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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    It's not really based on skill if you think about it. Zerg the enemies as fast as you can. WHY must content be focused on speeding through it and luck? Come on SE... give us something hard. Ifrit, Moogle, and Garuda can still be hard with randoms sometimes and Hamlet is super easy. QUIT making everything a speed run!
    It is skill. Why don't you try to pull a 17min speedrun, I am pretty sure you couldn't pull it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Req View Post
    What exactly is your definition of skill?
    It really comes down to the fact that not much "Skill" is required once the strategy is out and optimal setups are discovered. I just don't see the point in bypassing a good 3/4th of a dungeon just so you can get to/kill boss faster.
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  3. #843
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    It is skill. Why don't you try to pull a 17min speedrun, I am pretty sure you couldn't pull it.
    I don't believe it is a question of skill. Everything does require some form of skill. Only zerging content to me is simply not fun, just how I look at it. Alas, I have to play with the cards I am dealt with. So when I get to that stage, gotta get people beefed up and try my best to beat that time required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    It really comes down to the fact that not much "Skill" is required once the strategy is out and optimal setups are discovered. I just don't see the point in bypassing a good 3/4th of a dungeon just so you can get to/kill boss faster.
    in AV/CC you have to kill 3/4 of a dungeon to get through next area and 5 chest....? I wonder if you ever speedrun before in the new dungeon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    I don't believe it is a question of skill. Everything does require some form of skill. Only zerging content to me is simply not fun, just how I look at it. Alas, I have to play with the cards I am dealt with. So when I get to that stage, gotta get people beefed up and try my best to beat that time required.
    Oh i agree with you, i don't particularly enjoy zerging as well. I was just countering a statement that sounded very stupid to me.
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    Last edited by Chardrizard; 06-19-2012 at 11:51 PM.

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    And not a single dev. response.
    Lame..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagagemini View Post
    And not a single dev. response.
    Lame..
    This thread is certainly not worth a dev response. Specifically because they're in a full lose/lose situation. Whatever they say here will be met only with hathred and flames so regardless of what they're doing with all of this feedback, until they got some miraculous words to say here that can defacto contribute (i'm sure everyone would rage if they simply said 'we're working on it' because people always do that) they're keeping shut

    Edit: Also the site on your signature is on maitenance
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  7. #847
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skies View Post
    This thread is certainly not worth a dev response. Specifically because they're in a full lose/lose situation. Whatever they say here will be met only with hathred and flames so regardless of what they're doing with all of this feedback, until they got some miraculous words to say here that can defacto contribute (i'm sure everyone would rage if they simply said 'we're working on it' because people always do that) they're keeping shut

    Edit: Also the site on your signature is on maitenance
    I disagree, if anything, it is a proper Dev response would calm most down. Even if people do rage, it is better to respond than not to respond. I rather be wrong than wrong "and" ignorant to my community. They promise better communication with us, it would be nice if they showed it by giving us a response to this and not vague statements like they have in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    I disagree, if anything, it is a proper Dev response would calm most down. Even if people do rage, it is better to respond than not to respond. I rather be wrong than wrong "and" ignorant to my community. They promise better communication with us, it would be nice if they showed it by giving us a response to this and not vague statements like they have in the past.
    what the heck, dev promising communication with players doesn't mean they're gonna bow and give in to the players and start giving out epic lootz and kissing their feet once someone cry about low drop rate of something that is suppose to be rare.

    and what happens if the respond they gave are not what YOU want to hear? whine rant rage cry again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eard View Post
    what the heck, dev promising communication with players doesn't mean they're gonna bow and give in to the players and start giving out epic lootz and kissing their feet once someone cry about low drop rate of something that is suppose to be rare.

    and what happens if the respond they gave are not what YOU want to hear? whine rant rage cry again?
    every time they dont give the answer people want, people demand another answer more to their liking and the whining about no dev response continues

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    Yeah, would love Yoshi's personal response even if he decides to keep the quest line and his justification, so people would finally stop posting in this thread repeating the same thing lol.
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