Observations From Someone Trying Eureka for the First Time in 2022

[Serilda]

I started Eureka relatively recently too. I teamed up with three friends and we all go there together when we have some free time. It's been pretty fun. I don't love that it's instanced because the open world stuff in XIV is so lacking in threat and teamwork that it would be nice to the opportunity to do something like Eureka without all of the restrictions (I swear I leave my stuff in my saddlebag every time and have to go back out!) but the sense of danger is refreshing and while the punishments can be cruel, it rewards engaging with other players which is something criminally lacking elsewhere in the game. The difficulty is still far, far lower than in old school FFXI (sadly) but the nods to mechanics and content from that game are much appreciated. I wish the FATE rewards dropped into the treasure pool, though, because I'm cursed with drops and my buddies keep discarding all of their extra copies of rewards they don't need while I never get any! The treasure pool made farming in FFXI much less depressing!

[Equitable_Remedy]

While I've gotten all of the other relic weapons for my main, NIN, I am unlikely to ever do Eureka—the content just doesn't appeal to me as a casual activity. The two big turn offs for me:

• There are no quests to track what you're meant to be doing. I dipped my toe into Eureka a while back, but since there's no questline tracking progress, I'm not sure what I was doing or what I should be doing if I tried it again.
• Looking ahead, needing to join a discord or use a tracker for rare mobs and such is just more effort than I'm interested in putting into this.

Getting all of the other relics in the game was fine—it was either a casual grind that I could slowly do whenever or current content (I joined during ShB). Eureka just doesn't seem to fit the mold of something I can do as chill, low-impact content when I don't feel like doing anything else.

I'm not suggesting that Eureka needs to change or anything like that—I'm just saying that I'm not likely to ever do it, which is fine.

[Jeeqbit]

(1) The punishing leveling system
If you die enough times, you lose levels in Eureka. This is quite unacceptable to me, and is one of the biggest reasons why I may not ever go back. I understand there needs to be some punishment for dying, so yes, let me lose exp, reset the whole level bar back to 0 exp if you must, but there is no good reason why I should ever be able to drop to any level below the highest level I've reached.

Eureka is meant to pay homage to how MMOs like FF11 used to be, where they were extremely grindy, extremely punishing and had drop rates so low that you would probably never see things drop. They didn't want to make the entire game this way, but they are happy to make an isolated area that way for people who like how they used to be.

(2) Eureka penalizes you for working with others
Eureka is the only content I've done where I don't want help from others. When I was solo grinding levels, I noticed I earned less exp when other people joined me in fighting a mob.

This is usually to prevent higher level players from being able to speedlevel you. If you fight NMs in a party it's fine and that's what I did. PLD was best for fighting high level NMs as a low level because it's a tank and they can heal themselves and go invincible.

(3) You can't change jobs once you leave the base/home area
I struggle to think of a good reason why this is a thing.

This is a good point because it was changed in Bozja, the successor to Eureka. Eureka isn't anti co-op though, because people used to ask for a rez all day long and people would go out of their way to go to the home point, switch, then return to get them. Most people just played as a red mage or a healer anyway so they could rez eachother. It was nice. Before NMs were nerfed lots of times, it wasn't realistic to solo spawn most of them so that was co-op as well.

It's sad because I feel like Eureka has the potential to be so good if the devs would fix these issues. I know folks have been complaining about Eureka for years, but I want to believe that if enough of us (respectfully) raise our concerns, the devs will hear us and dedicate time/resources to fixing Eureka.

I love Eureka as it is because the struggle is fun, at least it was before the nerfs and buffs. I don't think the devs will do much with it because they usually don't touch old content. Look at the ARR dungeon rework which took them 9 years to start changing.

[Jettinson]

While I've gotten all of the other relic weapons for my main, NIN, I am unlikely to ever do Eureka—the content just doesn't appeal to me as a casual activity. The two big turn offs for me:

• There are no quests to track what you're meant to be doing. I dipped my toe into Eureka a while back, but since there's no questline tracking progress, I'm not sure what I was doing or what I should be doing if I tried it again.
• Looking ahead, needing to join a discord or use a tracker for rare mobs and such is just more effort than I'm interested in putting into this.

Getting all of the other relics in the game was fine—it was either a casual grind that I could slowly do whenever or current content (I joined during ShB). Eureka just doesn't seem to fit the mold of something I can do as chill, low-impact content when I don't feel like doing anything else.

I'm not suggesting that Eureka needs to change or anything like that—I'm just saying that I'm not likely to ever do it, which is fine.

The only reason i am mostly doing the Eureka relics is thanks to how much poetic i need for the HW ones... clearing all the NMs in a zone really helps even though I am stuck with thousand of lockboxes...

And Pagos, because one day I will get either the crab ring or cassie earring. ONE DAY

[Boblawblah]

sorry, I'll read the post now.

[worldofneil]

If you think it's bad now, you should have seen it when it was new... you couldn't even use a mount until you had finished all the story quests in the area (which meant you also had to be near the max level for that area).

The aetherytes all had higher (and different) levels associated with them so often even if you managed to get to one, you wouldn't initially be able to attune to it.

I lost track of the amount of time I spent trudging round Pagos on foot. It was not fun.

I'm not saying it's a walk in the park now, but compared to how it was... be glad they changed it at all!

[Jeeqbit]

If you think it's bad now, you should have seen it when it was new... you couldn't even use a mount until you had finished all the story quests in the area (which meant you also had to be near the max level for that area).

The aetherytes all had higher (and different) levels associated with them so often even if you managed to get to one, you wouldn't initially be able to attune to it.

I lost track of the amount of time I spent trudging round Pagos on foot. It was not fun.

I wish that hadn't changed, because I found it a lot of fun. It forced you to walk past sleeping dragons to get to NMs and you either became good at doing this or your character's body went on display for all the people walking past to see. I loved it.

[Atelier-Bagur]

You actually only lose exp if you don't get revived on time

[Mika_Zahard]

Can someone please repost what OP said w/o comic sans? i cant read that.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

I noped out of Eureka when it was current content. I just found the experience horrible. I refuse to touch it until it gets nerfed so hard into the ground that I can steamroll my way through it for glams. And if that never happens I'll just continue to pretend it doesn't exist. Same goes for Bozja.