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    Aurora428's Avatar
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    Solis Lux
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    Y'all do realize that this thread is just 25 people arguing with precisely one person who is a brick wall on the subject, right?
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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Proper balance is not about volatile metrics
    Proper balance is about proper balance, no more no less

    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    Are we really going to waste days proving once again that difficulty is subjective?
    You can't prove something that isn't true
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    You can't prove something that isn't true
    Lol wut? There's not a single job in this game I consider difficult to play. The average APM for any job in this game is around 45 which is painfully slow even for the more hectic openers.

    Meanwhile there are people who struggle with jobs and would say the opposite of me. Difficulty is 100% subjective.

    Then again I'm not sure why I'm wasting time on a troll like you who actually has a wiki page dedicated to them for how much of a troll they are which I will say is mighty impressive.
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    Last edited by Ransu; 11-03-2022 at 09:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Proper balance is about proper balance, no more no less



    You can't prove something that isn't true
    Yeah i'm convinced you're the guy from gamefaqs now lol
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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Lol wut? There's not a single job in this game I consider difficult to play. The average APM for any job in this game is around 45 which is painfully slow even for the more hectic openers.

    Meanwhile there are people who struggle with jobs and would say the opposite of me. Difficulty is 100% subjective.

    Then again I'm not sure I'm wasting time on a troll like you who actually has a wiki page dedicated to them for how much of a troll they are which I will say is mighty impressive.
    I'm a troll slayer, not a troll. Get it right
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    I'm a troll slayer, not a troll. Get it right
    You do a pretty poor job of it then.
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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    You do a pretty poor job of it then.
    Given that people like Ransu haven't been able to prove me wrong and flame/project when they see my name shows otherwise
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Given that people like Ransu haven't been able to prove me wrong and flame/project when they see my name shows otherwise
    You've been proven wrong a dozen times over. People are just mocking you at this point.
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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    You've been proven wrong a dozen times over. People are just mocking you at this point.
    Citation required. If you don't provide proof you're lying. Go fetch
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Citation required. If you don't provide proof you're lying. Go fetch
    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    You can't prove something that isn't true
    I just did provide a proof, if you filter all information you do not wish to learn, it's your problem.

    So far everyone agrees that difficulty is subjective and balancing around it is a terrible idea.
    I'd say it's your turn to provide a proof to disproove difficulty is subjective.

    I'm eager to read your answer.
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