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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    Why is this thread a red mage calling other jobs easy? SE adjusted the job, so the RDMs would stop accidentally yeeting themselves over the edge. RDM was never a difficult job, not that difficulty should determine damage. Only balance should.
    And difficulty is a part of balance
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    And difficulty is a part of balance
    Difficulty is not a part of balance.

    However, going by your lack of logic, RDM should deal no damage. It's an easy job to play with rez ulitity that exceeds that of SMN and a healing capability beyond SMN.

    Honestly, BLM is the hardest to learn. Outside of it, nothing is very difficult. Does anyone believe MNK is still even remotely hard to play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    MCH is harder than both.
    MCH is only rotationally harder than SMN
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    MCH is only rotationally harder than SMN
    Please give me exact details why DNC is harder than MCH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    Please give me exact details why DNC is harder than MCH.
    I already have given you quite a fair amount. Not my fault if can't understand information


    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    Difficulty is not a part of balance.

    However, going by your lack of logic, RDM should deal no damage. It's an easy job to play with rez ulitity that exceeds that of SMN and a healing capability beyond SMN.

    Honestly, BLM is the hardest to learn. Outside of it, nothing is very difficult. Does anyone believe MNK is still even remotely hard to play?
    RDM is harder than each phys ranged, and SMN. Oh and that utility you listed isn't actually a balancing factor, because it optimally doesn't come into play
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    RDM is harder than each phys ranged, and SMN. Oh and that utility you listed isn't actually a balancing factor, because it optimally doesn't come into play
    I find RDM easier than MCH, and I mained MCH since 2015. RDM was never hard.

    Instead of trying to make savage/ ultimate content unplayable for MCH, why don't you suggest upping MCH difficulty if it is such as issue for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    I already have given you quite a fair amount. Not my fault if can't understand information




    RDM is harder than each phys ranged, and SMN. Oh and that utility you listed isn't actually a balancing factor, because it optimally doesn't come into play
    RDM is as brain dead easy as SMN....Do you not keybind or something? lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    RDM is as brain dead easy as SMN....Do you not keybind or something? lmao.
    It's not true!
    Sometimes my button 3 shines, sometimes it doesn't, RNG is very difficult!
    And your combo must be at melee range and you need to fill a balanced gauge.

    RDM is a difficult job!!

    To be serious, the biggest differences between SMN and RDM are RNG and a gauge to fill.
    Mashing your shiny buttons isn't difficult. MCH had to plan its rotation 10 seconds ahead every 20s to not waste a single drill.
    RNG doesn't make a job difficult (except ARR BLM), it's just your button is now shiny, should you press it or not?

    It's the illusion of the choice, it's very difficult to be wrong while playing RDM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    Instead of trying to make savage/ ultimate content unplayable for MCH, why don't you suggest upping MCH difficulty if it is such as issue for you?
    For one do cite where I've ever stated what you claim I have. Secondly I do support making SMN and MCH actually require a pulse to play
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    For one do cite where I've ever stated what you claim I have. Secondly I do support making SMN and MCH actually require a pulse to play
    Great let's nerf RDM then. It's braindead easy to play. Then we can rebuff it, once SE makes it require a brain. That's your so called logic and facts for you. Nothing is difficult. Your precious job is not even remotely hard to play. No job except BLM is.
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