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    SMN was full uptime in Shadowbringers (save for buggy pet pathing). It wasn't "taxed" back then, but suddenly is now when it has extraneous movement that doesn't net them any extra uptime compared to their ShB selves, which was entirely sufficient with little planning.

    Is no longer needing to save one charge of egi command moves for movement really worth 600 dps? Just being "easy" is horrible reasoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    There is no fight that requires thinking this tier on RDM.
    Imagine actually saying this. Also I love living rent free in the heads of trolls, it's both hilarious and pathetic
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Imagine actually saying this. Also I love living rent free in the heads of trolls, it's both hilarious and pathetic
    I agree that RDM's cast bars have thought surrounding them, but I feel it's pretty clear that the answer here isn't for RDM to outdamage the other ranged as well and call that a "fix" lol.

    Both utility AND mobility are being heavily taxed. It feels like it's always a RDM trying to say mobility weighs heavier than utility. I wonder why that is?

    All ranged, including RDM should be doing a lot more damage, but you're going to struggle to find someone that feels RDM deserves more damage than a MCH who brings nothing.

    Like honestly a lot of your comments boil down to "my class should be good and yours should be bad"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora428 View Post
    I agree that RDM's cast bars have thought surrounding them, but I feel it's pretty clear that the answer here isn't for RDM to outdamage the other ranged as well and call that a "fix" lol.

    Both utility AND mobility are being heavily taxed. It feels like it's always a RDM trying to say mobility weighs heavier than utility. I wonder why that is?

    All ranged, including RDM should be doing a lot more damage, but you're going to struggle to find someone that feels RDM deserves more damage than a MCH who brings nothing.

    Like honestly a lot of your comments boil down to "my class should be good and yours should be bad"
    He's sorta a loss cause. I can sympathize as a RDM main as they are not doing the damage they should but at no moment mobility has ever been a RDM issue nor other jobs suddenly need to be worst than my main job. RDM got strong raise, that's why they do lower DPS. Essentially, we're looking at a damage uplift from physical ranged and caster DPS. Not just RDM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    He's sorta a loss cause.
    He's a notorious Gamefaqs troll. You'll save yourself a lot of time by ignoring him.

    Edit: See he knows.
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    Last edited by MagiusNecros; 10-02-2022 at 04:54 AM.

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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Imagine calling me a troll when you support Elice (Sohma) and Valcrist. Yikes. Also, not a troll in the slightest
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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    Imagine defending a bad take. Maybe RDM is super complicated for you. Difficulty is subjective to the player but I figured a 1 trick RDM player like you shouldn't have issues. Wait.. I'll keep it as it is.
    Nothing I've said on the matter of balance is a bad take, but rather factual statements. Also your need to insult me speaks volumes about the kind of person you are
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    Last edited by FireMage; 10-02-2022 at 04:43 AM.

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    I'd also suggest to ignore FireMage. He brought nothing to the debate so far.
    I can only imagine they wanted to honestly take part but had his bad take getting smash so much he started trolling in frustration.

    I think we mostly agree here that RDM isn't much more complex than SMN.
    It's just its lack of mobility is a curse on certain movement heavy mechanics.

    There is it, we actually have a mechanic that requires running for 10~15 seconds straight.
    Except this time casters are unfairly taxed and melees have an advantage that is still not justified.
    Especially considering they have a natural survivability&mobility, they're not taxed for that.
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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I'd also suggest to ignore FireMage. He brought nothing to the debate so far.
    I can only imagine they wanted to honestly take part but had his bad take getting smash so much he started trolling in frustration.

    I think we mostly agree here that RDM isn't much more complex than SMN.
    Argumentum ad populum is a thing for a reason. And again, wasn't a bad take, but a factual statement
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Argumentum ad populum is a thing for a reason. And again, wasn't a bad take, but a factual statement
    No one has said your takes are bad because they are unpopular, they just disagree with you.
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