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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Your opinion is not fact, that's actually gross of you to try to state that
    Fact stated:
    1% role bonus exists and encourage to have at least 1 melee, 1 caster and 1 ranged.
    Due to these 3 spots garanteed, each DPS role is competing for the spot of its own role.
    Last spot, the flex spot, will be most likely given to a melee DPS as their DPS is higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    Fact stated:
    1% role bonus exists and encourage to have at least 1 melee, 1 caster and 1 ranged.
    Due to these 3 spots garanteed, each DPS role is competing for the spot of its own role.
    Last spot, the flex spot, will be most likely given to a melee DPS as their DPS is higher.
    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    You haven't as none exist. RDM competes with the other DPS, MNK competes with the other DPS, EVERY DPS COMPETES WITH THE OTHER DPS. Not balancing on difficulty does nothing but punish those that excel at higher complexity Jobs
    "RDM competes with the other DPS"
    As seen above, "other DPS" includes: Monk, Dragoon, Ninja, Samurai, Bard, Machinist, Dancer, Black Mage and Summoner.
    But with the Party bonus existing, it is untrue. RDM will never had to compete with MNK or DRG.

    This is no strawman argument, you exactly said "RDM competes with other DPS" and "EVERY DPS COMPETES WITH THE OTHER DPS" with the generosity of putting it in capslock

    The contradiction is clear as day. You're free to correct yourself if you failed to convey your idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    And here you are continuing on about something I never contested. And now you're stuck strawmanning. I'll help you get back to my point if you ask nicely
    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Your opinion is not fact, that's actually gross of you to try to state that
    I stated a fact (the party bonus), you tried to contest it and claimed it was an opinion.
    I proved the fact.
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 09-28-2022 at 06:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutshell View Post
    Your opinion is not fact, that's actually gross of you to try to state that
    That was a factual statement, not an opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    Fact stated:
    1% role bonus exists and encourage to have at least 1 melee, 1 caster and 1 ranged.
    Due to these 3 spots garanteed, each DPS role is competing for the spot of its own role.
    Last spot, the flex spot, will be most likely given to a melee DPS as their DPS is higher.

    Source:
    5.0 Patch notes

    Linked picture:
    And here you are continuing on about something I never contested. And now you're stuck strawmanning. I'll help you get back to my point if you ask nicely
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    "RDM competes with the other DPS"
    As seen above, "other DPS" includes: Monk, Dragoon, Ninja, Samurai, Bard, Machinist, Dancer, Black Mage and Summoner.
    But with the Party bonus existing, it is untrue. RDM will never had to compete with MNK or DRG.

    This is no strawman argument, you exactly said "RDM competes with other DPS" and "EVERY DPS COMPETES WITH THE OTHER DPS" with the generosity of putting it in capslock

    The contradiction is clear as day. You're free to correct yourself if you failed to convey your idea.





    I stated a fact (the party bonus), you tried to contest it and claimed it was an opinion.
    I proved the fact.
    Nope, see you're still strawmanning. The party bonus has nothing to do with the fact that DPS compete with one another. Have a nice day, hope you figure it out
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    The party bonus has nothing to do with the fact that DPS compete with one another.
    Thank you for this quote.

    I didn't even tried to argue and got gold out of it.
    I don't even need to elaborate the flaws reveals themselves.
    We have reached the terminus.

    Have a good day, sir/madam.
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 09-28-2022 at 06:27 AM.

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    I've never seen someone so happy they were shown to be strawmanning, but you do you
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    Is FireMage's daily post limit exhausted yet? I want this thread to have normal discussion again instead of constantly being derailed by FireMage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cithaerias_pyropina View Post
    Is FireMage's daily post limit exhausted yet? I want this thread to have normal discussion again instead of constantly being derailed by FireMage.
    I’m like 99% sure it’s just trolling at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    I’m like 99% sure it’s just trolling at this point.
    Not a troll in the slightest
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