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    While the EE says "the arcane arts have ever eluded all but a few" Garleans, the story in-game itself treats it as an absolute that they can't manipulate aether whatsoever with no exceptions. I was under the impression that line meant that despite the inability to manipulate aether, some Garleans were still able to study the arcane arts. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to make technology to replicate and even supplant it. Even if we had a super special unique flower Garlean WoL, the MSQ treats even half-Garleans with scorn and pure Garleans like Cid hide their third eye 24/7. A Garlean pureblood running around without a care or dialogue makes little sense in ARR and even less in SB.

    That said, I'm personally surprised we got no Garlean third-eye glam piece in Endwalker. One of my expectations for the Garlemald section of the MSQ was an infiltration mission like the ones we had in ARR and SB where we don a uniform. There could have even been snarky dialogue if you were something like a Lalafell, Miqo'te, Au ra, Viera, or Hrothgar with a fake third-eye. After we didn't get that, I thought they might at least throw it in as a bicolor tomestone reward. It would be extremely easy to throw in the game and satisfy a section of the playerbase. Perhaps even make creating a Garlean NPCs even lazier in the future if they just take a character you can make in character creator and slap the eye on them as equipment or a fashion item instead of having to create a face with the Garlean eye feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    While the EE says "the arcane arts have ever eluded all but a few" Garleans, the story in-game itself treats it as an absolute that they can't manipulate aether whatsoever with no exceptions. I was under the impression that line meant that despite the inability to manipulate aether, some Garleans were still able to study the arcane arts. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to make technology to replicate and even supplant it. Even if we had a super special unique flower Garlean WoL, the MSQ treats even half-Garleans with scorn and pure Garleans like Cid hide their third eye 24/7. A Garlean pureblood running around without a care or dialogue makes little sense in ARR and even less in SB.

    That said, I'm personally surprised we got no Garlean third-eye glam piece in Endwalker. One of my expectations for the Garlemald section of the MSQ was an infiltration mission like the ones we had in ARR and SB where we done a uniform. There could have even been snarky dialogue if you were something like a Lalafell, Miqo'te, Au ra, Viera, or Hrothgar with a fake third-eye. After we didn't get that, I thought they might at least throw it in as a bicolor tomestone reward. It would be extremely easy to throw in the game and satisfy a section of the playerbase. Perhaps even make creating a Garlean NPCs even lazier in the future if they just take a character you can make in character creator and slap the eye on them as equipment or a fashion item instead of having to create a face with the Garlean eye feature.
    isnt that already the case with the Garlean NPCs you do meet in the Garlemald zone? For the most part they're midlander Hyurs with the eye slapped in the middle of their foreheads, so the work is already half way there. I assume the facetype is still a custom model though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    isnt that already the case with the Garlean NPCs you do meet in the Garlemald zone? For the most part they're midlander Hyurs with the eye slapped in the middle of their foreheads, so the work is already half way there. I assume the facetype is still a custom model though
    They seem to make unique face models for the Garlean NPCs, even if they're just midlander bodies and even if other than the eye, it looks like something you could make yourself. There's a website out there that has tools to let you look at character data for NPCs like Midas nan Garlond, but I'm not sure how kosher it is to mention or link it directly here since it goes into the behind the scenes data of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    They seem to make unique face models for the Garlean NPCs, even if they're just midlander bodies and even if other than the eye, it looks like something you could make yourself. There's a website out there that has tools to let you look at character data for NPCs like Midas nan Garlond, but I'm not sure how kosher it is to mention or link it directly here since it goes into the behind the scenes data of the game.
    Perhaps I'm mistaken, but it looked like the lion's share of random nobody pureblood NPCs we ran into in Garlemald were standard models using the usual assets, just with eyes stapled on. Now certain officers and other prominent story NPCs, yes, many of those were unique.
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